10/22 double-firing

[ILVSMOG]

At the range yesterday with my 10/22 I had it double fire on me a couple times. (fired 2 rounds for one trigger pull) This isn't a new gun and I've never had this problem before. Only thing "new" in the mix was the ammo: Wolf Match, which was incredibly accurate and consistent, by the way.

When the rifle would double fire, the next round would NOT fire with the next trigger pull, as though the firing pin had not been reset, even though another round had been successfully chambered.

Has anyone ever experienced this? The only thing I can think of is that this new ammo may have been more powerful that what I normally shoot and there was not enough spring pressure to adequately control the action of the bolt.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!!

[tuolumnejim]

Sounds like its gummed up with residue in the bolt, break it down and clean the hell out of it.

[Big O]

You want to be extremely careful in this situation. I would immediately pack up and leave. I don't exactly remember what the charge was, but there was a guy who got convicted of some assault weapon law because his rifle fired multiple rounds with one trigger pull due to a problem with the firing mechanism, there was no intent to make it fire full auto. I think this was in another state, but now that a precedent has been set, I wouldn't push my luck. I'm sure somebody will remember the details of this incident, it will raise the hairs on your back when you read it.

[Scratch705]

sounds like buildup on the bolt/firing pin.

unless it is clean... then that is a whole nother problem.

[ILVSMOG]

It may be a buildup issue. The rifle was clean when I began shooting. After about 50-60 rounds is when the problem started. Towards the end of my time at the range, the problem actually seemed to get worse. Not necessarily just the double-firing, but failing to fire the next, successfully chambered round (not resetting the firing pin). That Wolf Match ammo is covered in grease from the factory. I wonder if that stuff causes buildup issues in semi-auto rifles? I'll tear it down this afternoon and see what it looks like inside.

[JeePerz]

Sounds to me like you've got yourself an evil "aw" spirit in your rifle!

Good luck finding out what the problem is, let us know how it goes ...

[supersteve9219]

thats not a problem, its a feature! LOL

seriously though, try cleaning it out, before you do though see if the firing pin moves freely. I'm no gunsmith but I bet the firing pin is getting stuck in the forward position and when the bolt moves forward it is striking another round.

[CalNRA]

I would suggest deleting this thread and work on it until whatever malfunction is taken care of. Decorated veterans have been sent to prison for less.

[slik556]

You said it is not new so in that case I would also take a look at the sear and disconnecter. They may be worn and letting the hammer fall with out resetting..

[ILVSMOG]

I'm getting ready to tear into it and see what's up.

As far as the thread, I don't know how, or even if, I have the ability to delete it. If someone really thinks it's that big of an issue, forward it to a Mod's attention and they can make it go away.

FWIW: I didn't have any issues with anyone at the range. Maybe this condition was just my imagination. Maybe I was just hearing the bolt slap or bounce. Maybe I'm just hungry for attention/mall ninja/dumb kid, etc and none of this ever happened at all.

[ledman]

So, let me get this straight...you have a legal non AW weapon, and just because it malfunctions at no fault of your own, and no alterations have been made for it to do so. You are saying you can be arrested for that?

I say thats is BS. Not saying what you guys are saying is not true, but, that is hard to beleive that you could get arrested for that.

I mean, you can drive your car around with 4 bald tires and a fender missing, with a broken windsheild and it smokes like crazy from the exhaust pipe, and that is way more of a hazard than a .22 that can fire 2 rounds in one trigger pull the won't shoot anymore...but no one seems to care about the real safety of the public, but only trying to F over law abiding guns owners.

[CalNRA]

I say thats is BS. Not saying what you guys are saying is not true, but, that is hard to beleive that you could get arrested for that.

http://totalrecoil.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/malfunctioning-ar15-becomes-a-machine-gun/

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=45503

[ledman]

http://totalrecoil.wordpress.com/200...a-machine-gun/

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=45503

Well, the guy said some really dumb things, like saying he had the knowledge how to make it full auto, but not the skills or tools to make it full auto.
-1 on that for him...and overzealous, a-hole cops that are just looking to bust someone for something. He bought the gun legally. He did not convert it to shoot full auto,
In the end, yeah, this is BS.
Just like a car accident, they would investigate what casued it, and determine, faulty brakes, OK, cars fault, act of God, whatever, but not the direct fault of the owner to casue it to happen on purpose.
Why would they not do that with the rifle? They did, and he still got convicted.
And consider that a part had worn out so badly, it caused the rifle to mal-function? Becasue its a gun, and the guy is automatically gulity until proven innocent, which is impossible to do when it comes to law abiding gun owners and their rights. Guns=evil for any citizen to legally own a gun, and you are a bad person for doing so.

SO...to the OP, you definatley need to clean it, and have it checked out by a certified gunsmith.

Wow...what is this world coming to, that story is really de-motivating...and to think, he was a member of our Armed forces, and they(US justice system) still screwed him over. Wow, thank you US justice system.

[ILVSMOG]

Guys, I appreciate the help and opinion, but I really don't want this to degrade into a legal argument.

Everything has been stripped and cleaned. There was quite a bit of buildup on the face of the breach, but other than that, nothing was very dirty at all. I completely stripped the bolt, checked and oiled the pin and extractor. Both appeared to be in good condition and properly functioning. When I reassembled everything, I put the heaver charging handle from my .17Mach2 setup on it, to see if I get some better bolt control. It did seem as though I was hearing some bounce or slap after each round. The ONLY other thing I can think of is that the overtravel adjustment in my VQ trigger group needs to be increased, but, as I said before, this is not a new rifle and I have never encountered this situation before.

[wellfedirishman]

Wolf Match ammo is designed with a sensitive primer for match rifles. It only takes a little strike to set it off.

Try regular non-match ammo, it should help alleviate this problem also. I have had very good luck with CCI Blazer and Eley 22 Sport, both of which are cheaper than Wolf Match, and plenty accurate.