Walther P22 or 22/45 and why?

[caoboy]

thats great you will be very happy with it. if you have a problem with field stripping it pm me and ill take you through it via pm or phone. Its really easy if you do certain things right. i only say this because its known for people having trouble with it the first few times.

No problem, I found a few field strip videos on youtube! Seems pretty simple, just the separation of the lower from the upper seems to be the problem everybody has.

[TKM]

Go ahead and buy an Ultimate Cliploader and some spare mags while you are waiting. You can load almost as fast as you can shoot.

http://www.gunblast.com/Cliploader.htm

[nagorb]

Go ahead and buy an Ultimate Cliploader and some spare mags while you are waiting. You can load almost as fast as you can shoot.


http://www.gunblast.com/Cliploader.htm

I've never used one for the handguns but the ones I've used for 10/22s never seem to work.

[caoboy]

Picked up my 22/45 today, can't wait to shoot it, and SO glad I got it blued! Stainless doesn't look as good to me in person.

Hopefully Sunday I'll throw a few hundred rounds downrange!

[nagorb]

That was a long 10 days.

[caoboy]

That was a long 10 days.

The gun didn't ship when they said it would, I was lucky to go in on the 2nd and ask about it, they had 'said' it would be there the next day, then asked me if it was blued or stainless. I think they had to reorder it, or maybe it genuinely wasn't there yet. It is all gravy though, I'm loving the feel of this gun, just need to get out to the range tomorrow (today) hopefully! I'm actually going to break it down and clean it right now. It seems REALLY wet inside, oil coming out if of the safety switch and everything.

Also taught the wifey how to load mags, load the gun, rack the bolt and know if it's loaded/ safe/how to fire, etc. that way she'll know how to use it, and not be one of those people who don't know how to NOT muzzle people with a loaded gun.

[nagorb]

The first time I broke my down to clean it I had a hell of a time. The back-strap wouldn't come out so I had to use a dowel and hammer to knock it loose, then the upper receiver/barrel wouldn't come off so I had to buy a rubber mallet to knock it off. But it has gotten easier the more I've shot it.

[domeshotjuan2]

I have the P22 with the 5" barrel. I got it cuz it was cheap and looks cool. It does eject shells directly on my head sometimes which is not so good. And it is TINY. Otherwise, it's fun. A bit of a pain to get back together after cleaning.

Great gun to ease chicks into shooting, but even they move on to bigger calibers after a little while. (that sound a bit wrong.....?)

p22 is fun dont buy the 5 inch after a few thousand rounds the compensator has a tendency to move causing your front sight to go with it.S&W will replace for the same 5 inch or the 3 1/2. but it takes a while.p22 is also ammo picky. mine only eats cci mini mags.

22/45 im not to familiar with i shot a few of em but they feel too toyish. no recoil. it was very accurate though. and we ran cheap ammo with minimal ftf and a few fte.

it depends what your using them for and what feels good to you. are you just plinking or do you want a nail driver?

[caoboy]

The first time I broke my down to clean it I had a hell of a time. The back-strap wouldn't come out so I had to use a dowel and hammer to knock it loose, then the upper receiver/barrel wouldn't come off so I had to buy a rubber mallet to knock it off. But it has gotten easier the more I've shot it.

I'm about to blow up the gun.

I didn't get the lower receiver off since I don't have a rubber mallet.

Putting the mainspring housing back in took me about an hour.

This gun is definitely hard to disassemble, but HOPEFULLY it should get easier.

One thing I'm not sure of...will the gun allow me to dry fire with an empty mag in?

It won't let me close the bolt with an empty mag in. The bolt release drops the mag a little, before it releases.

Put in a snap cap, I can close the bolt just fine, and dry fire the gun. Once I pop that snap cap out, it won't let me shut the bolt unless I get rid of the mag/put another 'full' mag in.

Idk, it could be because it's 4am and that mainspring housing/pin is going to be thrown in the garbage next time it gives me problems.

[nagorb]

It can be a big pain in the ***.

You can wrap a hammer with a bunch of duct tape or electrical tape.

You should be able to fire with an empty mag.

I cant release the slide when one of my mags is empty but I can with the other mag. I posted about it on rimfirecentral and they said it was nothing to worry about.

If you have any more questions let me know.

http://www.guntalk-online.com/2245detailstripping.htm#ssmod

http://www.wiztechs.com/knightsrealm/guns/22-45/instructions.htm

I'm about to blow up the gun.

I didn't get the lower receiver off since I don't have a rubber mallet.

Putting the mainspring housing back in took me about an hour.

This gun is definitely hard to disassemble, but HOPEFULLY it should get easier.

One thing I'm not sure of...will the gun allow me to dry fire with an empty mag in?

It won't let me close the bolt with an empty mag in. The bolt release drops the mag a little, before it releases.

Put in a snap cap, I can close the bolt just fine, and dry fire the gun. Once I pop that snap cap out, it won't let me shut the bolt unless I get rid of the mag/put another 'full' mag in.

Idk, it could be because it's 4am and that mainspring housing/pin is going to be thrown in the garbage next time it gives me problems.

[domeshotjuan2]

dont dryfire any rim fire firearms you will destroy the firing pin. its a tiny .22 the parts inside re equal to the caliber. tiny. easily damaged. at least its what i was told so i never dry fire the .22

[CSACANNONEER]

If it's a first .22lr pistol, go with the Ruger. It will out last the Walther 10:1! The Ruger should perform well for 100s of 1000s of rounds. I've seen P22s go to shat before 25,000 rounds. If you just want a new gun to play with, while I'd still get the Ruger, I'd be more inclined to tell you to get whichever one you want.

[Old4eyes]

1. Yes it is not good to dry fire a rimfire.
2. You have to dry fire the Ruger as part of the take down process.
3. If it's a newer Ruger, it will have the dreaded magazine disconnect.

I say dreaded in that you have to do the hokey pokey dance with the magazine in taking down a Ruger MkIII / 22/45 that has it.

Pull the magazine out, make sure it is empty. Cycle the slide, make sure the chamber is empty.

Put the magazine in.
Dry fire it.
Pull the magazine out.
Pull the mainspring.
I tilt the gun back (angling the back of the gun down) and then pull the bolt.
Push forward on the upper and it comes off.

Now, remember that point about pulling the magazine out? The barrel/bolt will not come off without pulling the magazine. You can hit it with a sledge hammer and cuss all you want, the magazine has to be out. Ask me how I know.

There's a great video on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYHJm2P4kP0&NR=1

Pay attention to the fact that in the re-assembly he's getting hammer to go further up by pulling the trigger. And you need the magazine in at that point to pull the trigger to get the hammer to go further than it "normally" goes.

And anyone who can call gun parts the cheese and dingleberry is OK in my book.

My MKIII has a problem that my MKI does not. When I am putting the main spring back in, there is a real tight alignment problem between the holes in the barrel assembly and the U-shape portion of the recoil spring. What I have to do when putting the main spring back in is as I am pushing the pin of the mainspring up into position, I have to pull the bolt back and release it several times to inch it into the correct position.

The key to remember, gravity is your friend. The video shows that most of the time the muzzle is down and at the end, the muzzle is up.

Clear as Mud?

[Jarhead]

22/45

[nagorb]

Its ok to dry fire a ruger .22, it says so in the manual. Go to rimfirecentral and look for the threads regarding it. From what I remember the problem with most .22s is that the firing pins slam into the barrel whereas the 10/22 and mark series have firing pin stops that prevents this.