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  • #16
    sevensix2x51
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3835

    Originally posted by Gem1950
    1) If firearms were made to perfection there would be no need for improving them and no need for after market upgrade parts and accessories.

    2) The only thing between the bolt and the back of the receiver (on the 10/22) is the bolt stop pin, which is steel.

    3) Anything that can mitigate the slamming of metal against metal, and not interfere with normal functioning, is a plus in my book.

    4) If the buffer pins did not work as promised, word would get around and they would not sell as well as they do.

    5) A buffer pin, for under ten dollars, is cheap insurance policy against unnecessary wear and tear.
    is no need for aftermarket parts, OR upgrades.
    Last edited by sevensix2x51; 12-19-2009, 10:59 AM.

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    • #17
      Bend
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 204

      One of the mod's to ensure cycling for low power match ammo is to remove some of the mass of the bolt. The best place to do this is grind off the lower rear of the bolt at a 45 degree angle below the cross bolt cut. Just in-case regular ammo is used, its a good idea to have the rubber/poly buffer. As stated above, reducing any stress on the action, match or not, is a good thing too.
      "If you don't have 1000 rnds of ammo for every firearm you own, you have failed in your duty as a member of the human race." - FWB

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      • #18
        Gem1950
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        • Jun 2008
        • 2876

        Mini-14 buffer

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        • #19
          sevensix2x51
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3835

          ill shoot you a pm if i run acrost it. my shooting bag is really sharp once i get near the bottom of it, so i dont get my hands down there too often. but i gotta find an m1 sight in there pretty soon, so i might find it. dont hold your breath..

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          • #20
            RogueSniper
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            • Feb 2008
            • 3749

            I bought one but never installed it. I think I'll put it just to see what the fuss is all about.
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            • #21
              killshot44
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              • Nov 2009
              • 4072

              Just to drop in here.......I can't see any need in a .22, just doesn't develop enough blowback energy to hurt anything. Properly cured steel will not break, there are plenty of 100+ year-old Winchesters around to support that statement.

              +1 on the comment about most rifles not needing any mods to the action....

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              • #22
                Hyper
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 664

                Yes. It is one of the best & cheapest upgrades you can have for your 10/22 -> less recoil, better accuracy, faster follow-up shots, and tighter groups. I can mail you one for FREE. I am sure you will love it, when you notice all above listed improvements.
                Last edited by Hyper; 12-21-2009, 2:13 PM.

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                • #23
                  Bend
                  Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 204

                  Originally posted by killshot44
                  Just to drop in here.......I can't see any need in a .22, just doesn't develop enough blowback energy to hurt anything. Properly cured steel will not break, there are plenty of 100+ year-old Winchesters around to support that statement.

                  +1 on the comment about most rifles not needing any mods to the action....
                  Ummmm, most 10/22 (all Ruger) actions are aluminum. The stock cross bolt pins are steel.
                  "If you don't have 1000 rnds of ammo for every firearm you own, you have failed in your duty as a member of the human race." - FWB

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                  • #24
                    slik556
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1192

                    Originally posted by killshot44
                    Just to drop in here.......I can't see any need in a .22, just doesn't develop enough blowback energy to hurt anything. Properly cured steel will not break, there are plenty of 100+ year-old Winchesters around to support that statement.

                    +1 on the comment about most rifles not needing any mods to the action....
                    Originally posted by Bend
                    Ummmm, most 10/22 (all Ruger) actions are aluminum. The stock cross bolt pins are steel.
                    Yes it is true that not a lot of 10/22's ever break the receiver from standard ammo but some of the HV, and super HV ammo may cause a failure but not likely. But killshot44 is wrong.. like Bend said the pin is steel and the receiver is aluminum. So why not take the risk out of the equation and use a piece of inexpensive insurance..
                    Last edited by slik556; 12-23-2009, 8:16 PM.
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                    • #25
                      killshot44
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 4072

                      Originally posted by slik556
                      some of the HV, and super HV ammo may cause a failure but not likely.
                      There you go.....

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                      • #26
                        Gem1950
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 2876

                        Originally posted by killshot44
                        Just to drop in here.......I can't see any need in a .22, just doesn't develop enough blowback energy to hurt anything. Properly cured steel will not break, there are plenty of 100+ year-old Winchesters around to support that statement.

                        +1 on the comment about most rifles not needing any mods to the action....
                        Wow, I never realized that my 10/22 was designed exactly the same way 100 year old Winchesters were. If that's the case I guess I'd better put my rifles back to their original configuration so they work properly.
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                        • #27
                          Sky_DiveR
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3017

                          Originally posted by slik556
                          ...but some of the HV, and super HV ammo may cause a failure but not likely.
                          Stress cracks ARE a reality. I've seen 3 recently just by looking for another 10/22 to build... and the original owners didn't even know they were there. Who knows what or how many rounds it takes but stress cracks do happen... most likely most don't know it happens (happened) but they are out there.

                          Even if you replace the steel rod with a rubber hose with a screw inside (as one person I know did), you would eliminate the metal to metal contact with no effect to the function to the rifle. Isn't that a good thing?

                          Originally posted by slik556
                          ...So why not take the risk out of the equation and us a piece of inexpensive insurance.
                          Just my $0.02

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                          • #28
                            atto
                            Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 434

                            OK, thanks to a kind Calgunner, I'm back with my own verdict.

                            Installation was easy; just remove the stock and replace the steel pin on the receiver with the new one. I did it while on the field, and I noticed that I was able to stay on target easier during semi-rapid fire (using standard velocity rounds) with the new Wurstmeister bolt buffer. I didn't have to spend as much time acquiring the target again after each shot.

                            I didn't get a chance to compare follow-up shots and recoil using hyper velocity ammo because of the shortage of .22lr around here, but I think the results will only be magnified. I plan on doing this as soon as I get a batch.

                            All in all, I'm very happy with the performance; a must if you plan on shooting hyper velocity ammo.
                            Last edited by atto; 01-05-2010, 6:40 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Meety Peety
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3216

                              I bought mine for one reason, to make the bolt quieter. With subsonic, it sounds like im firing a friggin air rifle.. which I like. With standard loads, the recoil is a bit lighter, but the difference isn't spectacular.. probably because the recoil is already so light. Now, with HV loads I noticed a big difference in the recoil, especially when rapid firing. Reacquiring your target shot after shot is much quicker. Definately worth the money. The most you're going to pay for it is 10 bucks, theres not much reason NOT to pick one up.. unless you greatly enjoy the *clank clank* of the bolt slapping around each shot.

                              As far as adding longevity to the gun - lol. Lets just call that an "added perk" and leave it at that.
                              Last edited by Meety Peety; 01-06-2010, 4:51 PM.
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