Browning Buck Mark .22 Pistol NEED HELP!

[momoshooter]

I bought a Buck Mark(Brand New) and have been trying to remove
the screws atop the slide in order to remove the sight base, and ultimately
the barrel.

Read the manual. Google'd instructions online. Sprayed lubricant on them.

Nothing I do will make them budge.

Iam very concerned with stripping the allen head screws.

Anybody went through this??

How did you get around it?

I'm wondering if these aren't loctite down by the factory?

[Ledbetter]

Heat an allen wrench of the proper size. Insert it into the screw to heat the screw and melt any loctite.

Then, use a DIFFERENT allen wrench to remove the screw.

[5150Marcelo]

use anothe gun and shoot it off.

Just sayin....? JK

[bothenook]

i had exactly the same problem with my contour lite. after boogering up a couple of small allen wrenches, i sent the damned thing back to the factory for removal.
i would have used the heated wrench trick, if i'd known about it.

[Packy14]

i had the same issue, which I kinda went about wrong, I was changing to a tac-sol 7.5 inch barrel but wanted to use the factory front site on the new barrel (its a upgraded sight) couldn't make that bolt move and then ended up stripping it after 5 seconds (cheap chinese metal I'm guessing). I drilled it out, took off the site, and have a broken allen bolt still in the barrel, I guess I'll tap it someday if I need that 5.5 camper barrel for something.

[momoshooter]

Yep, I had thought about the soddering gun... Don't have one. So, perhaps holding the allen wrench over the stove for a bit,(with a pair of pliers of course) then attempting to transfer the heat to the screws will hopefully break the tension if it's loctite holding it.

[Wolfhound9k]

My Buckmark Standard also came with really tight screws from the factory. The top screws weren't that bad to get off, I just gave it some muscle and firm pressure. But the barrel screw.... man, I had to go out and buy a fitted wrench to get that thing out, and the first time it was so tight that it ended up slightly bending the wrench! here's the resources that I used while first learning the ropes of my Buckmark - which is an AWESOME gun btw

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212717

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164502

[shrap]

I don't think the screws have loctite, but they do have a lock washer that embeds itself into the metal.

Personally, I think it's the weakest part of the gun - every time you clean it you lose zero, and those screws tend to loosen up by themselves too if you don't tighten them down enough.

[maschronic]

if you keep shooting the gun, the screw tends to loosen up. just shoot the thing for a while. it will loose up.

[Wolfhound9k]

hmm... what if you were to apply torque on the hex wrench while you were shooting the Buckmark? The screws are deep enough that it takes at least 4 or 5 full rotations to remove them and all you really need to do is to break the initial resistance and from then on it will be tame! You won't have to break any of the 4 cardinal rules to do this, and the only thing it will cost you is accuracy and ammo. Just a thought

[Packy14]

hmm.. bad idea

hmm... what if you were to apply torque on the hex wrench while you were shooting the Buckmark? The screws are deep enough that it takes at least 4 or 5 full rotations to remove them and all you really need to do is to break the initial resistance and from then on it will be tame! You won't have to break any of the 4 cardinal rules to do this, and the only thing it will cost you is accuracy and ammo. Just a thought

have you ever seen the video of the guy w/ the G18 glock w/ a front pistol grip who shoots himself in the hand... your suggestion is a bad idea, and will likely lead to a repeat of that video.

[MAD SVT]

hmm... what if you were to apply torque on the hex wrench while you were shooting the Buckmark? The screws are deep enough that it takes at least 4 or 5 full rotations to remove them and all you really need to do is to break the initial resistance and from then on it will be tame! You won't have to break any of the 4 cardinal rules to do this, and the only thing it will cost you is accuracy and ammo. Just a thought

[Wolfhound9k]

Well obviously he's not just going to hold it out there and start shooting with the hex wrench in one hand and the gun freely floating around in the other while there are people standing around next to him! An empty pen can be used to extend the wrench's handle and obviously this will need to be done on a very quiet day at the range or out of the city.

Also, the way the Buckmark is designed places the muzzle on most models about 5" away from the front sight base screw (your hand will be much farther away with the right extension rod) and unlike a service pistol the entire upper portion of the gun isn't going to cycle when shot. This may be quite an alternative idea, but it's not as dangerous as it sounds with a .22 when common sense is applied.

Mine came off easy, but others may not be as lucky. I've also heard of people heating their hex wrenches and tapping it out to defeat the loctite.

[MAD SVT]

i usually break lock-tite with a dead blow hammer... usually the jolt will loosen it up. the shooting concussion shouldnt loosen it up, otherwise what the heck was the point of putting it on the gun in the first place if it doesnt hold up to gunfire?

heating works to loosen locktite, but the allen wrench would need to be super hot to be able to transfer the heat to the threads. I would recommend tapping this with a dead blow hammer, or using a soldering gun to heat the screws...


If all else fails... send it to Johnny Knoxville or Steve-O to try Wolfhound's idea.

[Wolfhound9k]

The only reason why I suggested the shooting idea (besides the fact that it does sound kinda fun ) is that even loctite (non permanent) does eventually come undone on a Buckmark. I use it on mine, and after a couple bricks of high velocity plinking rounds the screws get loose.

momoshooter, you also might want to consider finding a long hollow rod or drill a hole in a block of wood and use that as additional leverage to try and move the screws out.