22lr dedicated Upper with a Raddlock.

[radioed22]

So I have my AR15 with a Raddlock, and looking to get a dedicated 22lr upper. Am I able to use my lower and back out my Radd when I put the 22lr upper on? Also would I be able to use standard Ciener mags with this as well? As I use the flowchart I don't see a problem. Anyone do this at the range?

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

The short answer: Yes, yes, and I've done it but on only a couple of occasions.

You should consider backing out the Raddlock after you have installed your dedicated .22LR upper and reengaging it before removing your dedicated .22LR upper. Yes, I know, a bare lower does not have the capability to chamber or fire centerfire cartridges, and thus cannot be an AW. It's just a good habit to get into to ensure that you don't accidentally install your 5.56 upper with the Raddlock disengaged - that would constitute assembling an AW.

You can use standard Ciener mags in your .22LR dedicated rifle, provided that you owned them before the effective date of the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapon Control Act.

I have a dedicated .22LR rifle in my safe right now - built from a DSArms lower, DPMS upper, and Ciener conversion kit. It is Raddlock equipped and I follow the procedure outlined above. I have changed uppers at the range, but don't do it on a routine basis.

[Gio]

The short answer: Yes, yes, and I've done it but on only a couple of occasions.

You should consider backing out the Raddlock after you have installed your dedicated .22LR upper and reengaging it before removing your dedicated .22LR upper. Yes, I know, a bare lower does not have the capability to chamber or fire centerfire cartridges, and thus cannot be an AW. It's just a good habit to get into to ensure that you don't accidentally install your 5.56 upper with the Raddlock disengaged - that would constitute assembling an AW.

You can use standard Ciener mags in your .22LR dedicated rifle, provided that you owned them before the effective date of the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapon Control Act.

I have a dedicated .22LR rifle in my safe right now - built from a DSArms lower, DPMS upper, and Ciener conversion kit. It is Raddlock equipped and I follow the procedure outlined above. I have changed uppers at the range, but don't do it on a routine basis.

Good info, also a great person to get to know as well. I bought his other dedicate .22LR upper and I do not run a BB at all. I try to keep it as a complete rifle at all times and I have another AR that is Featureless now, so no real need for BB's for me period. Just remember that AWB aka Assault Weapons Ban does not include Rimfire. Always make sure to unlock/lock your lower if you plan on taking off one upper or .22LR kit rendering your AR an Illegal AW.

Have fun and take care,

-Gio

[Suvorov]

Part of the whole point of having a dedicated upper (in Kalifornia at least) is the fact that the rifle no longer is centerfire. Not a centerfire rifle = not an assault weapon = drop mags all you want!

[radioed22]

Thanks guys! Just double checking and seeing if anyone has come across a problem. I would like to build another complete but this would just fit a budget since I have a ciener kit. I leave the Radd in with my 556 upper. Not really wanting to defend self in this situation. Lower is a multi and dedicated will say 22lr so just covering myself. Thanks again

[Flying Bones]

Part of the whole point of having a dedicated upper (in Kalifornia at least) is the fact that the rifle no longer is centerfire. Not a centerfire rifle = not an assault weapon = drop mags all you want!

Its also not a centerfire when you're using a .22lr conversion bolt.

[Suvorov]

Its also not a centerfire when you're using a .22lr conversion bolt.

I agree, but I think it is a lot more justifiable to a non-informed officer than a 5.56 upper with a bolt. Plus it allowed me an excuse for another AR build.

[Chunky_lover]

well let me see a cop put in a 223 mag with the upper or conversion bolt in, there is no way so it doesnt matter, I run a prince 50 only so the rare times I shoot 223 I just lock it in and top load.

[Flying Bones]

One .22 wasn't enough so the .556 is now equiped with a kit... The legal way isn't usually the best way, as you both have pointed out.

[Chunky_lover]

I tried the raddlock but it seemed to stick, the button didnt work to smooth, and the flat screw head enlarged, like the metal was to weak so the tool was sloppy. If I do shoot 223 with 22 I keep the bolt hidden and out of sight, and when in the car the 223 bolt is hidden away so no one can put it into the rifle because the prince 50 has no screw in it.

[famas619]

So if i put a cmmg .22lr conversion kit in my AR i can take out the bullet button and use regular mag release, then when i switch back to 223/5.56 back to bullet button?

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

So if i put a cmmg .22lr conversion kit in my AR i can take out the bullet button and use regular mag release, then when i switch back to 223/5.56 back to bullet button?

Same as using a Raddlock, just more work.

I tried the raddlock but it seemed to stick, the button didnt work to smooth, and the flat screw head enlarged, like the metal was to weak so the tool was sloppy. If I do shoot 223 with 22 I keep the bolt hidden and out of sight, and when in the car the 223 bolt is hidden away so no one can put it into the rifle because the prince 50 has no screw in it.

There is a different convertible magazine release that's been mentioned here on Calguns which has a removable shroud over the magazine release button (sorry, don't have the link). Might be a good alternative. Also, don't invent a restriction where there is none. It doesn't matter where your 5.56 bolt carrier group is kept as long as the rifle is configured correctly when it is installed. Get rid of the Prince 50 - search the forums and you'll find out why.