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  • #16
    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19103

    Tag for my education
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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    • #17
      larkja
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 1362

      Originally posted by ocabj
      That's a significant detail not in the original post. I don't think a lefty 457 exists, yet.

      Definitely consider going Vudoo or RimX in a left-handed action. Pair it up with whatever chassis or stock you like.
      Sorry about that. I actually like to shoot off a bench with a right handed bolt. Much easier to shoulder on the left, cycle with the right hand, and keep my eye on the scope. I have tried lefties and prefer the right bolt off the bench. Now standing, or other orientations are a different story.

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      • #18
        larkja
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 1362

        Originally posted by ChampCarStar
        If you were considering smallbore position shooting I would definitely recommend a Walther KK500 smallbore rifle. But at almost $6000 it's more than twice your budget.

        One of the great features of the KK500 is it is completely ambidextrous and the bolt can be switched to left handed orientation by just turning the handle to the opposite side of the bolt with a few twists. No tools needed.

        The KK500 replaced my Anschutz 1907 at is by far superior to the Anschutz in every way.
        Thanks for jumping in. Any other suggestions for something a little less than $6,000?

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        • #19
          kendog4570
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2008
          • 5160

          Saw one of these last Saturday at a silhouette match. Shot under 1" at 100M out of the box with SK Standard Plus and Norma Tac 22. One hole at chickens (40M)





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          • #20
            larkja
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 1362

            Originally posted by kendog4570
            Saw one of these last Saturday at a silhouette match. Shot under 1" at 100M out of the box with SK Standard Plus and Norma Tac 22. One hole at chickens (40M)





            https://www.anschutznorthamerica.com...t_Trigger.html
            Great suggestions. Thanks

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            • #21
              bigbossman
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2012
              • 10851

              Originally posted by larkja
              Thanks for jumping in. Any other suggestions for something a little less than $6,000?
              Remington 513T or Remington 521.

              I went DE with a 513T in NRA 4 position. You don't need to spend big to be successful, you need to learn how to shoot.
              Always looking for vintage Winchester and Marlin lever action rifles. Looking to sell? Know of one for sale? Drop me a line!

              "Give a conservative a pile of bricks and you get a beautiful city. Give a leftist a city and you get a pile of bricks."

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              • #22
                larkja
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 1362

                Originally posted by bigbossman
                Remington 513T or Remington 521.

                I went DE with a 513T in NRA 4 position. You don't need to spend big to be successful, you need to learn how to shoot.
                Thanks

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                • #23
                  TrappedinCalifornia
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 8309

                  Originally posted by larkja
                  With ammo prices what they are, I find myself turning to the trusty 22lr more and more. I have started to upgrade my 10/22, but before I go crazy, thought it might be better to just buy a precision rifle. So, looking for suggestions. Here's what I have researched:

                  Ruger Precision Rimfire
                  CZ457 Varmint Precision Chassis
                  Bergara
                  Vudoo
                  Anschutz

                  My budget is around $2,500. I don't need a scope right now (have a 4x16 I'll be using), but will probably upgrade in the future.

                  I know the Vudoo is at the upper end and would need to buy used for an Anschutz. The Bergara seems to bee a Vudoo wanna-be - should I just pony up and go with the Vudoo? But the CZ 457 seems very promising.

                  Thanks
                  I have two of the CZ 452 Ultra Lux. I left the one as Plain Jane (added a sling) and mounted a Burris 3X - 9X Fullfield on the other, but it otherwise remains stock aside from the Triad Tactical Stock Pack to raise my eye for the scope.

                  Both are well balanced and...



                  With the iron sights, I can hit the caps from 1/2 gallon milk jugs at 25 yds. all day long. With the scope, while there is some variation in ammo, I can consistently shoot under 1" at 50 yards with the stock trigger if I do my part. (I've toyed with the idea of replacing the stock trigger with a Timney trigger, but haven't gotten 'round to it.)

                  The point is, I hunt with them. I don't 'target shoot.' But, they are extremely reliable and accurate. (CCI Stingers are a bit tight, so I don't shoot them 'regularly' in the CZ's.) I have no reason to believe the 457 would be any different and, potentially, even more accurate.

                  With all that said, however, bear in mind that the magazines are not inexpensive and can (at times) be difficult to find, even online. (Not long ago, CZ was not exporting magazines due to an 'interpretation' of an EU regulation and it may or may not still be on-going; though MidwayUSA currently lists some as available.) It's just something to consider.
                  Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 11-11-2021, 8:28 PM.

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                  • #24
                    FeuerFrei
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7455

                    Originally posted by larkja
                    Great suggestions. Thanks
                    If you're gonna stick a toe into 22lr precision don't discount Savage for accuracy.
                    MARK II BTVSS for lefties. VERY good accuracy out of their barrels and equally great triggers. $500 + or - .

                    Hell I can get great results with a little Mk2 fvsr budget rifle. If precision turns out to be your thang then go whole hog with one of the spensive brag worthy brands listed above.

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                    • #25
                      ChampCarStar
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 605

                      Originally posted by larkja
                      Thanks for jumping in. Any other suggestions for something a little less than $6,000?
                      Lol, I'm the wrong person to be asking. I always say, why spend $6000 on a Walther KK500 when you can pay $12,000 for a Grunig & Elmiger Racer 3.

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                      • #26
                        larkja
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 1362

                        So, I have narrowed it down to the:
                        1. CZ 457 AT-One
                        2. CZ 457 Varmint MTR
                        3. CZ 457 Varmint Precision Trainer
                        4. Bergara B14

                        The Anschutz 1761 will be a long-term goal assuming I'm good enough and have the time to dedicate to becoming good enough The above are at or below $1,000 which will leave a lot of $$$ for a good long-range scope - I'm thinking a 6x24 so I can see the holes at 100 yards. Narrowed down to the CZ action and Bergara due to the amount of aftermarket support. Appears to be a bunch of parts - triggers, barrels, etc - for the CZ, and the Bergara is based on the Remington 700 platform.

                        Of the above, what would you buy?

                        Thanks again for all the replies.
                        Last edited by larkja; 11-12-2021, 7:25 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Gun Kraft
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 804

                          What matches/distances are you considering? That really has to be the deciding factor in what kind of rifle to purchase.

                          You say .22LR is cheap(er than centerfire rifle cartridges) but current prices for match .22LR seems pricey to me.

                          I have a Savage MkII FVT ($510 MSRP) that will easily do one ragged hole at 25 yards with bulk ammo. Put a Boyd's stock of your choice on it and I can't think of a better way to practice fundamentals. And I like the cachet of doing that with iron sights instead of glass.

                          On the other side, have you considered .17HMR for long distance shooting? It stays supersonic past 200 yards so wind affects it less and therefore it's inherently more accurate than .22LR. Yes it costs more per round but if you really want to shoot long distance rimfire you might want to consider it. A quick check on ammoseek shows Hornady V-MAX .17HMR is 40 cpr and Eley Match EPS .22LR is 31 cpr.
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                          • #28
                            theduracellbigd
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1134

                            CZ is a better value. CZ is just as good as Anschutz(for the most part), like BMW vs Mercedes. FYI Czechoslovakia, the Sudetenland was not bombed by Hitler, Why? It is considered basically southern Germany to many Germans. Many German relatives, good beer factories, as well as other factories among them CZ, The Germans did not want to harm anything in CZ, but gain control of it in WW2. CZ just saves you some money, but still great quality and accuracy om par with Anschutz.
                            Last edited by theduracellbigd; 11-12-2021, 8:26 AM.

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                            • #29
                              larkja
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 1362

                              Originally posted by Gun Kraft
                              On the other side, have you considered .17HMR for long distance shooting? It stays supersonic past 200 yards so wind affects it less and therefore it's inherently more accurate than .22LR. Yes it costs more per round but if you really want to shoot long distance rimfire you might want to consider it. A quick check on ammoseek shows Hornady V-MAX .17HMR is 40 cpr and Eley Match EPS .22LR is 31 cpr.
                              Yes, have considered .17, but I have a LOT of 22lr so thought I would burn through it and practice the basics. Appreciate the Savage suggestion and I did have one a couple years ago. Can't remember what I didn't like, but I flipped it shortly after purchase.

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                              • #30
                                Gun Kraft
                                Vendor/Retailer
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 804

                                Regarding Savage MkIIs, there are some minor tweaks/complaints people have. Extractor issues are easily solved by adding a second spring clamp, aftermarket triggers bring trigger pull under a pound if that's what you want, and there's even an aftermarket magazine for better feed reliability. Or 3D printed single shot adapters. All relatively cheap mods on a relatively cheap rifle.
                                SF Bay Area firearm training
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