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  • rioslu
    Junior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2008
    • 33

    For those with AR 22LR Dedicated Feeding Problem

    I jumped on the bandwagon a few moths ago. Had a spare complete Stag lower. Decided to buy a dedicated ST-22 22LR upper. First 500 rounds of Federal bulk ran like butter, Decided to try other brands of ammo due to shortage locally. Nothing but federal copper plated would feed reliably. That was a bummer. Read the polishing thread on AR15.com but didn't work for me. Looked at the problem my self. My findings were that ammo (copper and/or lead) with bands would get stuck on the feeding ramp of the barrel not due to it being dirty and or at a high angle but there seemed to be a slight sharp edge where the ramp was machined instead of a rounded ramp lead into the chamber. I decided to file the ramp with a small round file. Now it eats any type of ammo. Gone through 3k rounds without a single FTF.

    These are my findings,

    As far as I can tell the problem is not in the collar. Looks like the collar only plays a role when the round is first stripped from the magazine. Then the barrel ramp together with the upper wall of the barrel help feed the round.

    This shows what im describing in the barrel feed ramp having a sharp edge (please excuse the pre-school sketch)


    A little difficult to take close up pictures but this shows what i filed, and what it looks like.


    Side view with inset



    These are the rounds that show the jamming. Clearly the bands are visible that would catch the edge. Also the bend it would create from the bolt's force when the jam would occur



    As far as i can tell the bolt would strip the round, the round bands would catch the barrel lip, with the feed angle the tip of the round was already in contact with the top wall of the barrel, the bolt still in forward motion and the round already jammed, it would bend the round, and a FTF was present.



    Just providing my 2 cents worth of knowledge.
    Last edited by rioslu; 05-31-2009, 10:21 PM. Reason: Spelling
  • #2
    nakoomba
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 123

    excellent post

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    • #3
      shookatash
      Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 271

      great post! cci minimags were useless in my upper as i had this problem. i just swapped ammo to Federal and American Eagle and don't have any more issues.

      I think the dirt build up on the ramp also impedes the round being fed and the lip will simply further bend the band.

      great pics by the way!

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      • #4
        Arteel
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 2392

        Excellent observation. I pulled out my dremel and created a lip. Viola, no more shaved bullets.

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        • #5
          Arteel
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2392

          I took my cmmg .22lr upper to the range today and doing the mod made the upper almost 100% reliable. I had a few FTE, but before I could barely get through a mag with certain ammo. I would HIGHLY recommend thid mof as I see it as the most effective way of improving the reliablity of your .22lr upper.

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          • #6
            Gator Monroe
            Banned
            • Oct 2007
            • 6422

            iS IT m231 or M261 ?

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            • #7
              cuda3x2
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 535

              I will grind all my 22 bolts ramp and polish

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              • #8
                usmcchet9296
                CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                • Feb 2008
                • 1834

                Ill be checking my 10/22 and 22/45
                good post
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                • #9
                  Sig357
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2092

                  rioslu thanks for the tip. I haven't had any FTE's, but have had a small amount of stovepipes (really small). I ordered JP Rifles light hammer spring, this should take care of my stovepipes.

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