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  • Salisbury
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2020
    • 31

    Noob Question

  • #2
    TKM
    Onward through the fog!
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 10657

    It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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    • #3
      Wordupmybrotha
      From anotha motha
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2013
      • 6965

      Some rear sights are easier to line up than others. Matter of getting used to them. Also, the technique in putting the cheek on the stock matters.

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      • #4
        alpha_romeo_XV
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 3070

        When you say shot a little high and a little left - how much are we talking? one inch or three to four inches? High velocity ammo vs Std velocity ammo can make 2" of elevation at 50 yards.

        What kind of front sight image are you using and how big is the pie (target)? With a flat front sight (stock Henry 001) a six o'clock hold at the bottom of the pie is most repeatable.
        Easy to adjust the rear sight for elevation, just lift the sight and slide the wedge . Raise the rear sight = raise the point of impact.

        Adjusting the windage at the front sight is impossible with stock Henry 001. the actual sight is not in a dovetail notch that can be tapped slightly with a hammer and punch.
        For that reason I bought the Hi-Vis aftermarket front sight ($20) which can be adjusted for windage and I can see the fiber optic much better than the factory steel post, but now I do a center of pie hold and thats fine for 50 yards.

        I went with the 16" barrel large loop carbine model so I can spin cock it. Always wanted to do that like Lucas McCaine. Un-expected bonus, mine has some really nice tiger wood grain in both the stock and fore-end.

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        • #5
          Ora Serrata
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 1736

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          • #6
            Jeepergeo
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 3506

            Sign up for a firearm safety class taught by an NRA certified instructor. If there are no classes, see if an instructor will give you private instruction including some range time. It would be well worth the money. It will prevent you from developing bad habits that could take years and lots of ammo to work through on your own.
            Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
            Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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            • #7
              Salisbury
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2020
              • 31

              Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it.

              Happy Independence Day!

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              • #8
                Pofoo
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 1684

                If you clamped a gun is vice and perfectly adjusted the sights for point of impact and then gave it to different people, some would shoot left, some right, some high, etc. The 2 options are to change your technique or move the sights.
                Gun design also makes a big difference. I have 2 pistols that I shoot straight. My wife shoots 1 low left and the other middle right. ?????????

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                • #9
                  Mr. Blue
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 2515

                  I second the idea of some formal training. You may not need it, but it couldn’t hurt. As far as shooting high right, maybe try to shoot a few groups at 25 yards and see what that looks like. The issue could be in your stance, the way you might perceive the sights, the ammo being used, all sorts of things can really amplify slight mistakes. .22lr is one of the least consistent calibers on the market as the bullet is so light. I love my 10/22 and will be getting another soon.
                  https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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                  • #10
                    damon1272
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 4857

                    One thing you will want to check is your cant or if you rock the rifle to the left or right. Sight may show on but if the rifle tilts to the left or right the bullet will land consistently in a spot your not aiming for.
                    Myself I cant the rifle pretty good to the left as that is how if feels better in my shoulder. Feels odd when I have it aligned properly. This really shows at longer ranges.

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                    • #11
                      pinger
                      Member
                      • Sep 2018
                      • 321

                      Ohhh... That's my problem. I haven't zeroed my guns properly to shoot gangsta.

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                      • #12
                        Jimi Jah
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 19026

                        I wasted ammo for a year with my Henry Golden Boy. Then I put on the excellent Leupold 33mm 2x7 rimfire scope. Now I hit at 100 yards easily.

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                        • #13
                          pinger
                          Member
                          • Sep 2018
                          • 321

                          Using open sights is very analog skill that has to practiced. Judging that the front sight is exactly where it is supposed to be and squeezing the trigger at that exact instant takes practice. It doesn't help that the stock sights that come with a 10/22 or Henry 001 are very crude. Being able to place the tiny front sight exactly at the proper place within a huge gap in the crudely shaped rear sight is not a simple task.



                          Train and practice your eye and hand coordination.

                          It's like learning to draw a perfect plus sign freehand. First drawing a perfect horizontal line then drawing a perfect vertical line ending with two lines exactly the same length crossing exactly in the middle of each.

                          The stock Ruger and Henry sights are like trying to draw with a chalk on the chalkboard. There are better aftermarket open sights (like HiViz or Peep sights) that would make it like drawing with a very sharp pencil on paper. You can see clearer that the line you drew is a little off to the side. But it's still you drawing the two lines.

                          Putting a scope or red dot sight would be like drawing using a ruler or t-square. So much easier.

                          People have been shooting since the beginning of time with all different sights, so don't give up. It can be done.

                          P.S. Shooting with a scope will give you clearer feedback on your breathing and trigger discipline. You will better see the point of aim movement with your breathing and heartbeat. You will get to see if you pulled the shot with your trigger pull.
                          Last edited by pinger; 07-05-2020, 3:44 PM.

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                          • #14
                            stevec223
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1620

                            Are you shooting your Glock to the left also ???
                            Asking for a friend...
                            Cheers...

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                            • #15
                              pinger
                              Member
                              • Sep 2018
                              • 321

                              All Glocks shoot left... except for the ones that shoot right. This is known.

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