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  • #16
    c good
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2705

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    • #17
      MARKFP
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 529

      I have fallen in love with my 204, to the point that I have been gathering parts for a ar15 rig. The 17hmr is hard to beat maybe on the cost side I would imagine, don't know haven't had to buy either in years. Made the mistake when I first shot the 204 not having ear protection on and, what a crack, unbearable, but love shooting it. A bunch of us get together and shoot funny faces at 200 with them.
      Oh no, not another 1911 !
      "You can't have a good argument with an ignorant person"....My Dad

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      • #18
        hermosabeach
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19793

        Don’t forget the .243

        Ammo is widely available

        If you reload you have a wide bullet weight

        Round is also good on deer and antelope.


        The 6.5 creedmore is a lot of ft pounds. Many accurate guns are around in 6.5


        Unless you need a dedicated varmint gun, I’d go with a little bigger cartridge that allows you to hunt as well


        I shot a fair number of dogs out to about 350 with both an AR 24” free floated and a .308.


        For a 22, I love the ruger 10/22 with a heavy barrel

        No recoil and cheap to shoot even with match Ammo.

        A decent aftermarket trigger by ruger is cheap to boot

        .22LR inside of 100-125 yards and bigger for further away

        In Wyoming, the dogs in a town would disappear after a few shots


        A good location will let you shoot at 2-3 prairie dog towns
        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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        • #19
          RandyD
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2009
          • 6673

          I used to regularly go on an annual prairie dog hunt. I took three rifles, an accurate .22 Anschutz bolt action repeater, a .223 Remington 700, and I always brought my .300 Win Mag to stay current with it. The .22 and .223 is all you need. Use the .22 out to 100 yards and the .223 as far as 600 yards. A lot of prairie dog hunters are using ARs.
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          • #20
            fishnbeer
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 776

            I hate to be the guy to remind everyone of this, but all hunting must be non-lead.

            22lr non lead sucks. At least out of my rifle anyway. Can not get good grouping even after a good barrel cleaning. So consider a rifle dedicated to shooting non lead. I have heard good things about the savage b models and ruger american. If you want a 'nice' rifle the cz 457 comes in 17hmr

            There are a lot of options for .17hmr, is readily available and shoots like a laser. Ballistics on the 22-250 are awesome, not sure about ammo availability. But keep in mind how loud these are. We used go out with our ARs to pop ground squirrels and we get get about 3 shots off before they all scattered. But with rimfire, we could be out there all day picking them off and not have to wear ear plugs.
            Last edited by fishnbeer; 07-04-2020, 6:17 AM.

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            • #21
              eviioiive
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1620

              Not in America
              Originally posted by Kestryll
              Your name has been publicly printed in newspapers and on the web, your expectation of privacy is flat gone.
              Originally posted by CALGUNS.NET
              You have been banned for the following reason: posting other member's personal info without permission. I don't care what your reasoning is that is not allowed.

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              • #22
                Calif Hunter
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2003
                • 3323

                Originally posted by fishnbeer
                I hate to be the guy to remind everyone of this, but all hunting must be non-lead.
                Is there a place in CA to shoot prairie dogs?


                I love my .204 Cooper. I rotate between a .22-250, a .223 and the .204. For a rimfire, I use a CZ .17 HMR. .22 LR also ricochets and skips badly. I do keep a .22 handgun handy when moving for close range targets of opportunity.

                I was also thinking of a trip for prairie dogs, but I think time is getting away from me as most places stop shooting them in late July or August in order to let things calm down for big game seasons.

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                • #23
                  1911man
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1575

                  17 hmr. for under 100 yards
                  204 for beyond 100

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                  • #24
                    general_disarray_prk
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1520

                    Originally posted by Calif Hunter
                    Is there a place in CA to shoot prairie dogs
                    Yes -

                    "Each year Surprise Valley, California is faced with a massive infestation of ground squirrels known as the Belding Squirrel. The varmints, sometimes called Sage Rats, can destroy up to a third of the farmer's crop. Something needed to be done so the Chamber of Commerce organized the annual Squirrel Roundup which is held the last Saturday of March nearest to the first day of Spring.

                    Varmint Hunters and Target Shooters are invited to shoot as fast as you can, and share your hunting feats at the evening barbecue.

                    The Squirrel Roundup Party is sponsored by the Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce and includes a BBQ, official Squirrel Roundup Hat, and raffle ticket. This event had brought commerce to the remote Surprise Valley area
                    ."

                    Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce Calandar (EVENTS) Link: http://www.surprisevalleychamber.com/events.htm

                    For specific dates and details, please contact the Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce; 530-279-2001 or visit www.surprisevalleychamber.com/chamber.htm
                    Last edited by general_disarray_prk; 07-04-2020, 10:23 AM.

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                    • #25
                      theduracellbigd
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 1139

                      .223

                      Hands down first rifle a .223 with a 6x20 power scope, target or bull barrel, accurized AR or bolt gun. You can find plenty factory varmint loads and at less price than all the other centerfires mentioned above(fiocchi Hornady vmax 40 grain or 50 grain). You can use it for any range up to 300 yards with out any issue and just watch the red mist.
                      Second rifle a 17HMR with 3x9 or 4x12, smaller and handier weight, up to to 100 yards for a lighter carry walk about vmax red mist session.

                      That's all you need. I have gone about 12 prarie dog/ground squirrel hunts over the years. I Have friends that shot ,22-250, ,204, ,243 and they have killed no more effectively at all ranges then the .223. Past 300 yards ,wind drift, heat mirage, and optics quality all play a big factor. At 300 yds plus the drift and drop dope and adjustments will need to be made regardless of centerfire used …..so a few more clicks with the .223 no big deal. It is damn hard to see those little bastards past 300 yards so most guys stay shooting them under 300 anyways.
                      Last edited by theduracellbigd; 07-04-2020, 11:01 AM.

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                      • #26
                        damon1272
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 4857

                        Duracell Big D is right on.
                        I have been on many prairie dog shoots. Love my 22-250 but it gets hot too fast and in the end does no better than a 223.
                        Personally shoot 223 and 17 hmm for everything now. 17 is great for walking and shooting out to 150 yards or under. 223 for everything out to 500.
                        Recommend for a 200 yard zero on your 223 and 100 yard zero on the 17.

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                        • #27
                          edgerly779
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 19871

                          Never heard of prairie dogs in ca. Lots of ground squirrels.

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                          • #28
                            NATEWA
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 5977

                            Originally posted by general_disarray_prk
                            Yes -

                            "Each year Surprise Valley, California is faced with a massive infestation of ground squirrels known as the Belding Squirrel. The varmints, sometimes called Sage Rats, can destroy up to a third of the farmer's crop. Something needed to be done so the Chamber of Commerce organized the annual Squirrel Roundup which is held the last Saturday of March nearest to the first day of Spring.

                            Varmint Hunters and Target Shooters are invited to shoot as fast as you can, and share your hunting feats at the evening barbecue.

                            The Squirrel Roundup Party is sponsored by the Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce and includes a BBQ, official Squirrel Roundup Hat, and raffle ticket. This event had brought commerce to the remote Surprise Valley area
                            ."

                            Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce Calandar (EVENTS) Link: http://www.surprisevalleychamber.com/events.htm

                            For specific dates and details, please contact the Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce; 530-279-2001 or visit www.surprisevalleychamber.com/chamber.htm


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                            • #29
                              NATEWA
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 5977



                              Good info

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                              • #30
                                RandyD
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 6673

                                Originally posted by general_disarray_prk
                                Yes -

                                "Each year Surprise Valley, California is faced with a massive infestation of ground squirrels known as the Belding Squirrel. The varmints, sometimes called Sage Rats, can destroy up to a third of the farmer's crop. Something needed to be done so the Chamber of Commerce organized the annual Squirrel Roundup which is held the last Saturday of March nearest to the first day of Spring.

                                Varmint Hunters and Target Shooters are invited to shoot as fast as you can, and share your hunting feats at the evening barbecue.

                                The Squirrel Roundup Party is sponsored by the Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce and includes a BBQ, official Squirrel Roundup Hat, and raffle ticket. This event had brought commerce to the remote Surprise Valley area
                                ."

                                Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce Calandar (EVENTS) Link: http://www.surprisevalleychamber.com/events.htm

                                For specific dates and details, please contact the Surprise Valley Chamber of Commerce; 530-279-2001 or visit www.surprisevalleychamber.com/chamber.htm
                                The question was, Are there any prairie dogs in California. I have never heard of any. Your post is about ground squirrels, which is a different pest.

                                The lead free ammo that is required to hunt with in California, has prompted me to finally never hunt again in California, including doves. The hunting in California is marginal compared to other western states. The last thing I want is some liberal oriented California game warden demanding to inspect my firearm, papers, ammo and whatever else he can think of so he can cite me for some obscure violation. No Thanks California.
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