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  • #16
    bug_eyedmonster
    • Oct 2007
    • 3639

    Originally posted by ocabj
    I have a Vudoo. Simply ordered a barrelled action (20" Bartlein MTU) and built it from there.



    I looked at the RIMX at SHOT. It has a lot of interesting features. People are attracted to the interchangeable bolt heads and non-protruding fixed extractor to allow for untimed barrel swaps.

    When it comes down to it, I don't see benefits of the RIMX for me. I don't plan on ever changing to different cartridges in the same gun, and if I did want to shoot 17HMR, I would just build another rifle.

    Quick barrel changes are nice, but only from a turnaround standpoint and not from a cost savings. A high end prefit will be equivalent to the cost of a shouldered barrel.

    Anyway, I don't think you can go wrong either way in terms of getting a rifle that will shoot.

    Note: The RIMX is already out. You just can't order direct from RIMX. You have to go through a dealer.

    Yes, I've been watching the threads on SH regarding their vendors and the reviews of the RimX. While I am totally digging their performance, I'm a bit reluctant to pull the trigger. I have also not been seeing the flood of Vudoo barreled actions flooding the used market...


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    Vudoo has turnkey barreled actions direct or from dealers, their chamber likes Lapua X ammo.

    RimX has a floating head so you can use .17HR or .22WSM in the same action,

    which I like, but it is vaporware at this point.

    Its all Dynamic, if RimX creates competition we may see great things from both.

    Right now Big Horn makes actions, centerfire and rimfire, you need a VAR, Vudoo makes rimfire only solutions but you are constrained by their solution and what they see as the market.
    I think Altus has been selling them, or at least getting people on a wait list. as well.

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    Thank you all for your input. I'm not sure if it's the excitement of a shiny new toy that's getting shooters to say their Vudoos are collecting dust, but it seems to be a common statement coming from those reviewing. Maybe that's just the nature of those that got the pre-release actions, I dunno.
    The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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    • #17
      ocabj
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 7924

      Originally posted by bug_eyedmonster
      Thank you all for your input. I'm not sure if it's the excitement of a shiny new toy that's getting shooters to say their Vudoos are collecting dust, but it seems to be a common statement coming from those reviewing. Maybe that's just the nature of those that got the pre-release actions, I dunno.
      I can't imagine anyone who bought a Vudoo buying a RIMX and saying the RIMX is better. As far as someone getting a RIMX and shooting it more, it's probably true in the sense you get a new rifle and are going to shoot it constantly.

      Then again, I haven't bought and built a RIMX. Before I get any new precision rifle, I have to save up for the optic first and spending $2500+ on a new optic adds up.

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      • #18
        bug_eyedmonster
        • Oct 2007
        • 3639

        Originally posted by ocabj
        I can't imagine anyone who bought a Vudoo buying a RIMX and saying the RIMX is better. As far as someone getting a RIMX and shooting it more, it's probably true in the sense you get a new rifle and are going to shoot it constantly.

        Then again, I haven't bought and built a RIMX. Before I get any new precision rifle, I have to save up for the optic first and spending $2500+ on a new optic adds up.
        Padom over at SH has been raving about it, as has Orkan in his review so far. I believe Orkan has mentioned a couple of times that his Vudoo has been collecting dust since the build, but that might just be due to the amount of testing he's done on the RimX. While I am in the same boat, it seems that optics are a never-ending bucket to save for, but I'd be quite content putting a 3-15 on my future rimfire build and calling it a day. Not to say they are significantly cheaper, but the dent is slightly smaller on the bank account. Let's not forget about the chassis/stock for the rifle, unless they are ordered with the action or barreled action as well.

        Jerry
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        • #19
          Californio
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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          • Dec 2006
          • 4169

          They are all MARKETING, its up to us so determine what fits our perceived idea of use and pocket books. Never thought I would see a casual .22LR at such a high price, I would be happy with either but the fantasy of one expensive piece of glass and several calipers is intriguing I am watching and drooling like a kid in a candy store.


          Originally posted by bug_eyedmonster
          Padom over at SH has been raving about it, as has Orkan in his review so far. I believe Orkan has mentioned a couple of times that his Vudoo has been collecting dust since the build, but that might just be due to the amount of testing he's done on the RimX. While I am in the same boat, it seems that optics are a never-ending bucket to save for, but I'd be quite content putting a 3-15 on my future rimfire build and calling it a day. Not to say they are significantly cheaper, but the dent is slightly smaller on the bank account. Let's not forget about the chassis/stock for the rifle, unless they are ordered with the action or barreled action as well.

          Jerry
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          • #20
            SDCarpenter
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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            • Dec 2018
            • 570

            A vudoo is tried and tried to shoot. With rim x ammo, Everytime.

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            • #21
              bug_eyedmonster
              • Oct 2007
              • 3639

              As an update, I dros-ed my Rim-X action today. So far, I have a Jewell trigger, and two barrels. I specifically got the 20" carbon wrapped Proof, and ordered a Bartlein 22" Heavy Palma. I'm not 100% sure which stock/chassis to run this in, but I have a few options in the works. I just wanted to thank everyone for their input and wanted to give a quick update.
              The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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              • #22
                jimmykan
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3093

                Originally posted by bug_eyedmonster
                As an update, I dros-ed my Rim-X action today. So far, I have a Jewell trigger, and two barrels. I specifically got the 20" carbon wrapped Proof, and ordered a Bartlein 22" Heavy Palma. I'm not 100% sure which stock/chassis to run this in, but I have a few options in the works. I just wanted to thank everyone for their input and wanted to give a quick update.
                Congrats!

                Any pictures yet?

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                • #23
                  bug_eyedmonster
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 3639

                  Originally posted by jimmykan
                  Congrats!

                  Any pictures yet?
                  Best I can do for now sir.

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                  The test target is from the Bartlein barrel from Bison Tactical.

                  I can't wait to get it back together, but waiting for hand to heal up after surgery (from this past Wed).
                  The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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                  • #24
                    jimmykan
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3093

                    Originally posted by bug_eyedmonster
                    Best I can do for now sir.

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                    The test target is from the Bartlein barrel from Bison Tactical.

                    I can't wait to get it back together, but waiting for hand to heal up after surgery (from this past Wed).
                    Nice test group. Are you going to feed it Midas rounds then?

                    See that's my main mental obstacle to buying one of these top-tier 22LR trainers. If I'm only willing to shoot CCI SV, do I even deserve a RimX or Vudoo?

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                    • #25
                      bug_eyedmonster
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3639

                      Originally posted by jimmykan
                      Nice test group. Are you going to feed it Midas rounds then?

                      See that's my main mental obstacle to buying one of these top-tier 22LR trainers. If I'm only willing to shoot CCI SV, do I even deserve a RimX or Vudoo?
                      I have some Center X as well as some Eley Match ammo to test, as well as plenty CCI. The two different barrels are also to test the CE CuRX rounds as well to appease CA hunting laws. The copper offerings are otherwise **** from what I've experienced.
                      The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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                      • #26
                        LynnJr
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7958

                        Originally posted by jimmykan
                        Nice test group. Are you going to feed it Midas rounds then?

                        See that's my main mental obstacle to buying one of these top-tier 22LR trainers. If I'm only willing to shoot CCI SV, do I even deserve a RimX or Vudoo?

                        The key to rimfire accuracy besides a great barrel is the chamber.
                        The reason the semi-autos shoot very well and not great is you can't get the force required to close the bolt properly as with a bolt action chamber at 0.043.
                        For a semi auto a Bentz chamber is about as good as it gets.
                        That said if your only going to shoot pinker ammo buying a Diorio turbo or a Bleiker or similar isn't going to get you ARA winning accuracy.
                        A good barrel with a good chamber and pinker ammo is still a very accurate setup just not competitive accurate.
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                        • #27
                          Peahi2
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 818

                          I hope to get a Vudoo someday...stock/chassis - not sure of which one. and I'll need a lot of Lapua Center-X.

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                          • #28
                            kev301
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 52

                            If you get a vudoo, send it to the Lapua testing center in Mesa. After the testing you can puchase a case of the best lot of Lapua center x for your rifle. You can have them test on center x and Midas plus

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                            Originally posted by Peahi2
                            I hope to get a Vudoo someday...stock/chassis - not sure of which one. and I'll need a lot of Lapua Center-X.

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                            • #29
                              thegiff
                              Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 363

                              I have a Vudoo. Couple of my buddies have Vudoos. For instance the NRL-22 match director I shoot with has one, I'm the centerfire match director. They all shoot great. Sometimes feed is finicky, these have been traced to loose magazine wells. The magazine well needs to be a tight fit to the magazine.

                              I've seen 2 RimX's, one competitor has one, he has had 2 extractors break on his with some misfires and blown extractors for some reason, don't know why just yet. Then one of the RO's who is also a professional gunsmith just got his and it shoots great, feeds perfectly, and so far has had no issues.

                              So the competitor with issues probably needs a smith to take a look at it, I don't have a clue what is wrong and I'm not going to guess.

                              Mine works great in a chassis, the fit of the mag is tighter than in my Manners stock. So in my Manners, which has a mini-chassis, the fit is looser so I get occasional misfeeds. If I put some tape on the magwell or the mags, then they feed fine.

                              I'm using lot-tested Center-X for my Anschutz, they seem to shoot the same in the Vudoo best I can tell. The barrels are nearly identical in length though, at about 20 inches.
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                              • #30
                                acourvil
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                                • Mar 2010
                                • 532

                                Originally posted by thegiff
                                I've seen 2 RimX's, one competitor has one, he has had 2 extractors break on his with some misfires and blown extractors for some reason, don't know why just yet. Then one of the RO's who is also a professional gunsmith just got his and it shoots great, feeds perfectly, and so far has had no issues.
                                The earliest RimX actions had extractors that would chip easier than they should, but they changed the material and anything after the first year of production or so should be fine. Misfires together with broken extractors sounds like something is not set up right.

                                One minor advantage of the RimX is that magazines height can be adjusted; the magazine catch is adjustable. I've heard stories of problems from bad feeds from magazine fit for both Vudoo and RimX, not sure if either is better than the other.

                                IMO, the main advantage of the RimX is that you can get pre-fit barrels (and also swap bolt heads to change rimfire caliber). Vudoo has more time in the market, more owners and probably has refined it's design a bit more.

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