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  • socal m1 shooter
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 1902

    Ruger manual: use red loctite on MKIII scope base?

    The manual for the Ruger MKIII says that red loctite should be used to secure the scope base. Really? I thought red was almost like JB Weld.

    I have some purple 222 loctite. Would that be enough? Or blue 242?
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  • #2
    Fatcat
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1299

    The main disadvantage of using Loctite red is if you ever have to remove the base You need heat to break the bond. I usually use Loctite blue, never had any issues with any of the bases I’ve screw mounted.

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    • #3
      Garv
      RSG Minion, Senior
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2014
      • 9066

      Blue.

      Red is very strong as you said and can strip threads.

      Just make sure to thoroughly clean the mating surfaces thoroughly before applying.
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      • #4
        sofbak
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 2628

        The color spectrum for loctite is:

        Green= mild servicable joint
        Blue=medium serviceable joint
        Purple= greater than medium serviceable joint
        Red=damn near permanent joint requiring 900 degrees F heat to service

        I wouldn't use anything stronger than blue, and maybe green depending on the fastener type I was trying to secure.
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        • #5
          Old4eyes
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1757

          This URL states that 500 degree F is what's needed to soften red loctite, not 900. But it's still a lot of heat that your hair dryer isn't going to put out.

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57173

            Originally posted by socal m1 shooter
            I thought red was almost like JB Weld.
            LOL.

            All you have to do to break down red Loctite is to heat to 400 degrees.
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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57173

              Originally posted by sofbak
              The color spectrum for loctite is:

              Green= mild servicable joint
              Blue=medium serviceable joint
              Purple= greater than medium serviceable joint
              Red=damn near permanent joint requiring 900 degrees F heat to service

              I wouldn't use anything stronger than blue, and maybe green depending on the fastener type I was trying to secure.
              Wrong.

              Purple = Low strength
              Blue = Medium strength
              Red = High Strength

              Wicking Brown = Low Strength Adjustable (applied to an assembled thread joint)
              Wicking Blue = Low Strength (applied to an assembled thread joint)
              Wicking Green = High Strength (applied to an assembled thread joint)

              There is also a thick Green is for cylindrical parts instead of threads.
              Randall Rausch

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              • #8
                sofbak
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 2628

                Got all that from a former Heinkle rep-whatever...

                Bottom line still holds-"I wouldn't use anything stronger than blue, and maybe green (there is a none-wicking vrrsion) depending on the fastener type I was trying to secure."
                Tire kickers gonna kick,
                Nose pickers gonna pick
                I and others know the real

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57173

                  Originally posted by sofbak
                  Got all that from a former Heinkle rep-whatever...

                  Bottom line still holds-"I wouldn't use anything stronger than blue, and maybe green (there is a none-wicking vrrsion) depending on the fastener type I was trying to secure."
                  The non-wicking green is 620 which is not a threadlocker.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #10
                    sofbak
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2628

                    Like I said-"whatever".

                    Bottom line, DON'T USE THE RED, unless you're willing to take a torch to it for service/removal.
                    Tire kickers gonna kick,
                    Nose pickers gonna pick
                    I and others know the real

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                    • #11
                      squeeze
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1338

                      Originally posted by sofbak
                      Like I said-"whatever".

                      Bottom line, DON'T USE THE RED, unless you're willing to take a torch to it for service/removal.


                      S&W used red on the rear sight on my shield. It was a really HUGE problem getting the rear sight off. Had to use HEAT. Won't ever allow RED in my house!

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                      • #12
                        Joefear7
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 449

                        Mines been on for years and thousands of rounds with no loctite at all
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                        • #13
                          newbie1234
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 3130

                          I am a Republican (RED) but for Lock-Tite on anything I have to go with BLUE.

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                          • #14
                            MongooseV8
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4426

                            For the little screws I use Purple and Blue on the larger screws.

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                            • #15
                              MOA squirrel
                              Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 121

                              Use a clean tipped soldering iron to heat screws with red locktite.
                              No need to use a torch.
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