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  • BKSAOC
    Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 164

    Precision Rimfire

    Hey guys. I'm new to CalGuns. I'm very interested in getting into the precision .22 game. I'd like to build precision .22LR rifle. While there seems to be an infinite amount of information on how to build a precision 6.5, .308, etc. online, there doesn't seem to be as much on rimfire precision.

    1. Can you recommend some good sources of information with links?
    2. I have a 10/22 takedown. I like the 10/22 platform. Any recommendations on aftermarket barrels, components, stocks, etc?
    3. Is there such a thing as rimfire match ammo?
    4. I reload. Is there such thing as rimfire reloading?

    Thanks!
  • #2
    kzin
    Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 185

    I guess you're talking about PRS type specifically ?

    You'll probably get some responses on precision in general so sort that out.

    Be careful about gearing up for exactly what you want to do based on internet info then finding you have to drive for several hours to do it.

    1. google the internet. accurate shooter and rimfire central are a couple of decent places. There may be better for specifically what you want. maybe snipers hide

    2. not my thing

    3. Absolutely. Several brands, mostly on a get-what-you-pay-for basis. Most match is standard(subsonic) velocity. Maybe for PRS high-velocity has advantages in less drop???

    4. I guess it's technically been done but basically no.

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    • #3
      EmphaticThumb
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 78

      Like Kzin mentioned it depends on what type of game you want to play. If you are looking for PRS style matches, then I would recommend looking to see if there is a club near you running NRL22 matches. These are really fun PRS style matches scaled down to 100 yards for .22 rifles. Here is a link to the course of fire for January to give you an idea of what they do: http://nrl22.org/wp-content/uploads/..._Jan19_COF.pdf

      I have competed in a couple matches at Sage Ranch in Ridgecrest and it is a fun match with a good group of folks.

      You can compete with a stock rifle to try it out before making any modifications, I have seen folks compete with a pretty stock 10/22 and usually there is a stock savage to loan for folks that want to try it out.

      I shoot bolt action guns but I think rimfirecentral.com has a wealth of information about the 10/22 platform.

      Like Kzin mentioned you want to try sub-sonic ammo for best results. CCI standard velocity and Wolf Match Target are some brands to try to start without breaking the bank. Not sure how picky auto-loaders are with ammo though.

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      • #4
        joe47
        Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 475

        You can put 1000 dollars in a 10/22 and it will shoot just as good as a $400 CZ 455 Varmint out of the box. Buy really good ammo and stick with a bolt action rather than an auto.

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        • #5
          BKSAOC
          Member
          • Dec 2018
          • 164

          Awesome, info. Thank you guys. A $400 CZ 455, eh? I'll have to look that one up. THanks!

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          • #6
            Pardini
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 1204

            Originally posted by BKSAOC
            Awesome, info. Thank you guys. A $400 CZ 455, eh? I'll have to look that one up. THanks!
            I just got one from Buds for $370 something on a price match. Another one to look at is the Tikka T1X. They can be had for around $450.
            Originally Posted by OCEquestrian View Post
            Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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            • #7
              EmphaticThumb
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 78

              There is an NRL22 match this Sunday at Sage Range in Ridgecrest if you are in the area and want to check it out: Link

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              • #8
                crufflers
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2011
                • 12723

                Originally posted by joe47
                You can put 1000 dollars in a 10/22 and it will shoot just as good as a $400 CZ 455 Varmint out of the box. Buy really good ammo and stick with a bolt action rather than an auto.
                Depends how you calculate that. You take home a $400 455 Varmint, it becomes an $800 gun if you want to shoot it - mount, rings, scope, extras like bipod.

                But 10/22's have become more expensive and so have the barrels.

                I think they are about the same price really, and the CZ 455 or new 457 is the better choice.

                A lot of the real serious shooters replace the barrels and work the trigger on the 455 too.

                Biggest costs are the SCOPE choice and the AMMO, IMHO.

                FYI, the newer models are out now. CZ 457. 457 .22 LR Varmint wood stock 20.5" barrel is about $452, .22 MAG version is about $533. Versions with Boyds stock or Manners will be more. Looks like the "PRO Varmint" replaces the 455 Tacticool (threaded barrel, Boyds stock) - $578. Anything in Manner's stocks are over $1100. Nice lineup. New mid-range Boyd's stock has adjustable comb and LOP under $700.



                I guess I'd be interested to see if the bolt clearance is an issue on the 455, but it seems like a non-issue with my scope/mount. I got my 455 Tacticool Varmint for $400 range and was helping my LGS going out of business clear his stock. If I even got a 457 it would be .22 Mag. The new name "Pro" beats "Tacticool" hands-down. That's the only con to my 455 so far besides the 11mm rail.
                Last edited by crufflers; 01-09-2019, 11:54 AM.

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                • #9
                  arrowshooter
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 724

                  Originally posted by EmphaticThumb
                  Now that looks like a hoot! If that is what precision rimfire is all about, even I would give that a shot.

                  Below is what I just did with the 10/22 on the low end side. I already had the stock and glass so current cost was right at $400. If you add in what I paid for the stock and glass, it's $560 and worth every penny.

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                  • #10
                    crufflers
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 12723







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                    • #11
                      Pardini
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2014
                      • 1204

                      Originally posted by crufflers






                      It appears that CZ' s are no bueno in the NRL 22. MSRP must be under $350 for the base rifle, but apparently one can upgrade with an unlimited budget.
                      Originally Posted by OCEquestrian View Post
                      Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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                      • #12
                        EmphaticThumb
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 78

                        Originally posted by Pardini
                        It appears that CZ' s are no bueno in the NRL 22. MSRP must be under $350 for the base rifle, but apparently one can upgrade with an unlimited budget.
                        CZs are specifically excluded from the NRL22 "Base Class", which is a pretty limited list of stock rifles. Everything else shoots in the "Open" class. At the couple matches I have shot I have seen folks shoot mostly in the open class with one person shooting a stock Savage in the Bass class. The guns in the open class have been anything from a lightly modded 10/22, to several CZs, to a Vudoo V22 .

                        Most of the NRL22 targets are pretty generous so I think how well the shooter can shoot off barricades and from odd positions probably makes more of a difference than the rifle most of the time. There are certain targets like the .25 KYL or certain stages, like paper at 100 yards where the limits of the gun might matter.

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                        • #13
                          crufflers
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 12723

                          Originally posted by Pardini
                          It appears that CZ' s are no bueno in the NRL 22. MSRP must be under $350 for the base rifle, but apparently one can upgrade with an unlimited budget.
                          They do have quite a few basic models where the street price is under $350 but I don't know where the limit comes from. Could be price paid or could be MSRP? There are "Scout" modes and "Trainer" models that are basic/basic stocks but still tack drivers. "Standard" model 455 sells for $315 and the MSRP says $324 at least on BUDS.

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                          • #14
                            newbie1234
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 3118

                            Originally posted by crufflers
                            The first video is the best ever demonstration of MOA and bullet trajectory of 100 and 50 yards that I ever seen.
                            And I wonder what kind of ammo he used. (Edit: watch the video again, the shooter said he shoot Lapua Center-X ammo)
                            Thanks Cruff.
                            Last edited by newbie1234; 01-09-2019, 5:10 PM.

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                            • #15
                              crufflers
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 12723

                              Originally posted by newbie1234
                              The first video is the best ever demonstration of MOA and bullet trajectory of 100 and 50 yards that I ever seen.
                              And I wonder what kind of ammo he used.
                              Thanks Cruff.
                              There are quite a few rimfire channels that are good. I like that guy and Long Range Shooters of Utah. He may be using expensive Fed Gold Medal Match or Expensive Lapua... I'll post if I re-watch and he shares it. Uses Fed GMM in other videos past 200 yards.

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