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  • Wordupmybrotha
    From anotha motha
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2013
    • 6965

    Smith & Wesson Model 41 review - first impressions

    The Smith & Wesson Model 41 has been on my bucket list for years. Whenever there's a discussion about what the best rimfire semi-auto pistol is, the Model 41 never fails to get a mention. It has a reputation for accuracy, high quality craftsmanship, pride of ownership, easy fieldstrip, but also high cost and for being finicky with certain ammo. The two downsides caused me to hesitate. Even used ones on Calguns marketplace go for $1100-$1300, basically the same cost as a new pistol. And the thought of such an expensive gun being picky with ammo seemed like a rip off. But you know what, oh what the hell, let's stop hemming and hawing and just get the dang thing.

    I bought one new, paroled it yesterday and took it for a spin. Usually, I fieldstrip and clean it before shooting it for the first time, but you know what, life is too short. I ran a bore snake through it three times, put some oil on the rail and commenced fire. Here are my first impressions after one day of shooting.

    Reliability: This was my biggest worry, so I started testing this first.
    My conclusion is that it's inconclusive. It's too early to tell.

    1st mag was CCI round nose 40gr high velocity. My 4th shot didn't get extracted. it got stuck in the ejection port and caused the 5th round to not chamber. After I cleared the jam, the rest of the mag loaded no problem.

    2nd mag was the same ammo and same results. 4th shot again caused a malfunction. Cleared it and the rest ran fine.

    I also fired Ammscor standard velocity, CCI standard velocity, Blazers high velocity, Golden Bullets high velocity, and Federal AutoMatch high velocity. Each of those ammo had at least one fail to extract.

    But towards the end of the session, all the ammo ran fine without a malfunction. I'm calling it inconclusive, because I think the gun was going through a break-in period. What's pretty cool is that it cycled standard velocity rounds.

    Accuracy: This thing made holes in the paper where I aimed it. It's amazing. They had it sighted in from the factory just like how I like it - at six O'clock. Noticeably more recoil from firing HV compared to SV, even though 22LR is inherently low recoil. Couldn't tell which was more accurate, but I liked running SV. Very low muzzle fip from both HV and SV - easy to rapid fire and stay on target.

    Ergonomics: The target grip melded in my hand when I picked it up. Then I put my left support hand using a typical semi-auto grip. Awkward... The grip is meant for one-handed target shooting. Using a revolver grip (left hand over the right hand) felt much better. I haven't shot the 7 inch barrel before, but the 5.5 inch felt really comfortable for me. Loading the magazine by hand is painful. It has strong spring tension so pulling down on the nub leads to a painful thumb. The solution to that was Baby Lula, that I keep in my range bag. Quick and painless.

    Craftmanship: The thick heavy milled slide is awesome. And the mirrored bluing is quite a sight. It's so easy to fieldstrip, unlike the neanderthal Ruger MK series and the hokey Buckmark that requires a hex key. But what caused me to raise an eyebrow is the sharp edges on the back of the slide. Gotta be careful not to get cut when charging the slide.

    Parting Thoughts: This gun was a pleasure to shoot. Rimfire is my favorite type of gun to shoot in general, but this was particularly pleasurable. I can see this going with me every time to the range. Hopefully, by then it'll be fully broken-in.

    Would appreciate your thoughts and experience on your S&W Model 41, particularly your experience with the break-in period and ammo reliability/accuracy. I haven't experimented with the trigger travel adjustment yet, but would be interested in reading about that. What else should I know about the Model 41?
  • #2
    Wordupmybrotha
    From anotha motha
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    • Oct 2013
    • 6965



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    • #3
      Tank 57
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 4144

      Love my 41. Had it a long time, probably my favorite handgun to shoot. Mine is very accurate with Wolf match target. Reliable up to about 250 rounds. Then time to clean.

      Usually much more accurate with standard velocity ammo. Which is also easier on the gun. Most match ammo is standard velocity.

      My match barreled 10-22 loves Federal Auto match. My 41 shoots it into shotgun like patterns. Ammo does make a difference. Try a lot until you find something that shoots better than you do. And you will find it. Eley Club shot great for me, but pricey.

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      • #4
        Spyder
        CGN Contributor
        • Mar 2008
        • 17121

        Don't shoot high velocity through it. Stick with standard, unless you're going to tinker with springs and such.

        The rimfire guys almost invariably shoot CCI Standard through them and it seems to do very well, but as with anything, each gun is different. Spend an hour or two reading up on the Smith 41 specific forum on rimfirecentral.com and you'll learn a bunch.

        I have one made in the 70's and LOVE it. It's got some scratches and is missing an grip screw and escutheon or however it's spelled, but it goes to the range with me all the time. Hundred yard steel is a blast.

        Enjoy it! They're awesome pistols!

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        • #5
          TKM
          Onward through the fog!
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2002
          • 10657

          McFadden, the makers of the Ultimate Cliploader(shutupweknowtakeitupwithmrmcfadden) also make the Lightnin' Grip Loader.

          This piece of kit comes with adapters for most of the popular 22LR mags on the planet. Including the M41. I used to just buy a dozen or so mags for each weapon. I still do but I've got one of these too.



          It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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          • #6
            bubbapug1
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2008
            • 7958

            I have a 41. I love it. However my buddy constantly kicked my butt with a high standard supermatic. So I bought one. The supermatic is way easier for me. Now I beat my buddy again.
            I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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            • #7
              Wordupmybrotha
              From anotha motha
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2013
              • 6965

              Originally posted by Tank 57
              Love my 41. Had it a long time, probably my favorite handgun to shoot. Mine is very accurate with Wolf match target. Reliable up to about 250 rounds. Then time to clean.

              Usually much more accurate with standard velocity ammo. Which is also easier on the gun. Most match ammo is standard velocity.

              My match barreled 10-22 loves Federal Auto match. My 41 shoots it into shotgun like patterns. Ammo does make a difference. Try a lot until you find something that shoots better than you do. And you will find it. Eley Club shot great for me, but pricey.
              That reminds me, I've got some Norma Tac-22 in the garage I get to test.

              Originally posted by Spyder
              Don't shoot high velocity through it. Stick with standard, unless you're going to tinker with springs and such.

              The rimfire guys almost invariably shoot CCI Standard through them and it seems to do very well, but as with anything, each gun is different. Spend an hour or two reading up on the Smith 41 specific forum on rimfirecentral.com and you'll learn a bunch.

              I have one made in the 70's and LOVE it. It's got some scratches and is missing an grip screw and escutheon or however it's spelled, but it goes to the range with me all the time. Hundred yard steel is a blast.

              Enjoy it! They're awesome pistols!
              Good to know, SV is the preferred ammo.


              Originally posted by TKM
              McFadden, the makers of the Ultimate Cliploader(shutupweknowtakeitupwithmrmcfadden) also make the Lightnin' Grip Loader.

              This piece of kit comes with adapters for most of the popular 22LR mags on the planet. Including the M41. I used to just buy a dozen or so mags for each weapon. I still do but I've got one of these too.



              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxLiUaGZnbw
              I've got the Ultimate Clip Loader that's my staple range gear. I wonder if that M41 adapter is compatible with it.

              Also, thanks for the link to the extractor tuning instructions.

              Originally posted by bubbapug1
              I have a 41. I love it. However my buddy constantly kicked my butt with a high standard supermatic. So I bought one. The supermatic is way easier for me. Now I beat my buddy again.
              Oh man, sounds like another great 22 pistol.

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              • #8
                cabikefreak
                Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 137

                I have one that I bought with a lot of wear. I never have given it to a gunsmith to examine but I am sure the right smith could improve it. My extractor has seen a lot and I had to tune it up a bit. It needs to stay clean or it will fail to extract. Oil only on this gun, no grease or it may not fully cycle. It will typically need to go thru one mag to warm up and then it is reliable for the rest of my short sessions. Everyone loves to shoot it, that's for sure! Hope you have fun with yours.

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                • #9
                  beerman
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 5046

                  My 41 is one of my favorite guns...Certainly my most accurate handgun. Mine likes the Wolf match target.

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                  • #10
                    Wordupmybrotha
                    From anotha motha
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 6965

                    Originally posted by cabikefreak
                    I have one that I bought with a lot of wear. I never have given it to a gunsmith to examine but I am sure the right smith could improve it. My extractor has seen a lot and I had to tune it up a bit. It needs to stay clean or it will fail to extract. Oil only on this gun, no grease or it may not fully cycle. It will typically need to go thru one mag to warm up and then it is reliable for the rest of my short sessions. Everyone loves to shoot it, that's for sure! Hope you have fun with yours.
                    Thanks, I will.

                    Originally posted by sgt1372
                    A Model 41 is a target gun and (with the exception of sn early field version) is NOT designed or intended to shoot high velocity loads, which will only cause increased wear and tear to a very expensive gun.

                    If you want a plinker, buy a cheaper 22 like a Ruger MkII or High Standard Supermatic instead.

                    FWIW, I've owned my Model 41 for over 35 years and have used it only for bullseye shooting at 25 yards w/target loads. I've never had a problem w/it and it compares well in accuracy w/my Hammerli 208.

                    Treat it w/the care and respect it deserves and it will serve you well.
                    That's a long time!
                    I figured, even though the gun is expensive, might as well get it now so I can enjoy it longer.

                    I've got a few Ruger MKs, but I suspect they won't be coming out to play for a while.

                    Originally posted by beerman
                    My 41 is one of my favorite guns...Certainly my most accurate handgun. Mine likes the Wolf match target.
                    I'll need to see what mine likes.

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                    • #11
                      russ69
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9348

                      Originally posted by Wordupmybrotha
                      ... Whenever there's a discussion about what the best rimfire semi-auto pistol is, the Model 41 never fails to get a mention...
                      My favorite American rimfire pistol.
                      Usually much more accurate with standard velocity ammo...
                      The owners manual has no mention of only using standard velocity ammo. They usual cycle standard velocity ammo relatively well after being broken in. Wolf does sell spring kits with a lighter spring for those of us that only shoot standard velocity ammo. That's what I have in mine and it's 100% reliable.
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                      • #12
                        Strafer
                        Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 477

                        My 70s era 41 likes CCI SV and is extremely accurate. My 17YO son loves to shoot it when we go to the range, and prefers it over my 6" SW 617. I don't shoot HV thru it, ever. It will get FTE after a few hundred rds, but i just clean it up and it goes back to normal. Enjoy yours!

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