Federal Range & Field ammo ?

[newbie1234]

According to Federal website this is the new ammo from Federal (729) https://www.federalpremium.com/products/rimfire.aspx
This ammo does not cycle well with:
- Marlin 60SS (rifle)- Load one tube (15 rds) I got FTFeed every other round.
- GSG 1911-22- load one mag (10) I got FTFeed&Fire every other round.
I used the same guns and loaded Fed AutoMatch and Thunder Bolt, 100 rds each, both guns cycle OK.
Then I try Fed Range&Field on the Buckmark, it cycles OK for the rest of the box.
Brought only 3 guns, I can not do more testing, I was then went home , still don't know what going on.

Here the picture of the how many FTFeed/Fire out of 25 rounds. (couple rounds drop to the range floor, I did not collect them).

[RawHP]

How's the crimp? Are the bullets loose in the brass (can you spin them or do they wiggle)?

[GimpsUnlimited]

I have tried Federal Auto Match without issue. Just bought some of these exact ammo. Will make sure to bring a brick to range next time.

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[newbie1234]

How's the crimp? Are the bullets loose in the brass (can you spin them or do they wiggle)?

The crimp is tied, not wiggle, the ammo are NIB liked the other ammo.
(To prepare for 1118 I ordered MORE than 10K rds now I stuck with it :, I may need another wheel gun to shoot all that 10K rds ).

[CodyGT46]

While I have a box of this I have yet to shoot it, I do have a box of the same ammo, but in the 38gr and so far it's shot and cycled well in my Ruger 22/45, it gave problems with my Walther P22, but that doesn't surprise me as its an older model and really only likes hyper velocity rounds or CCI Mini-Mags. I have yet to try either of these ammo through my 10/22 or Savage 64.

I'll have to bring along the 40gr on my next trip to see if they're as poor as the ones you've shown. Damn shame you had to deal with OP!

[Vee3]

Most bulk packs are not suited for semi-autos.

Nonsense.

Autos are what the bulk pack makers hope you buy, in order to shoot up more ammo. It's mostly all high velocity, which is what most .22 auto rifle manufacturers recommend.

I've been shooting bulk pack ammo since they started selling bulk packs, in multiple auto rifles/pistols. Before that I shot mostly CCI Blazer, which is pretty much bulk pack quality ammo. Went through at least 5 cases of it before I was 18. It was about all my Dad would buy because it was so cheap, and we shot/hunted nearly every weekend.

[MyOdessa]

Most bulk packs are not suited for semi-autos...it's about the brass.

=8-)

It is nonsense.

All my semi-auto .22s function great with bulk ammo, as long as it is high velocity.

In fact, my Ruger MkIIs shoot bulk ammo most of the time, without any hiccups. Same goes for my Ruger 10/22s and my Kidd 10/22.

[RawHP]

The crimp is tied, not wiggle, the ammo are NIB liked the other ammo.
(To prepare for 1118 I ordered MORE than 10K rds now I stuck with it :, I may need another wheel gun to shoot all that 10K rds ).

Then I'm guessing the round has a slightly different profile than the other rounds that cycle well. The bullets look like they're being bent on the feedramp before the rim clears the feed lips on the mag (or feed throat, in the case of the Marlin). Have you polished the feed ramp on the GSG? That might help; but otherwise you may be stuck shooting those rounds out of the Buckmark.

[Mutant]

The crimp is tied, not wiggle, the ammo are NIB liked the other ammo.
(To prepare for 1118 I ordered MORE than 10K rds now I stuck with it :, I may need another wheel gun to shoot all that 10K rds ).

Well it was a learning experience at least. I bet next time you will test a specific 22 Ammo in your firearms before you order "over 10 thousand" of those buggers.

Ouch.

[newbie1234]

Went to the range yesterday, brought two cowboy guns: Henry lever rifle and Ruger Single 10. Shoot two boxes flawlessly. I can not dump all that 10K rds on that two guns, so what I need is :
- Get a Henry Golden Boy,
- Do they made Ruger Single 10 in "blue" (I already had SS) , if they do then
problem SOLVED

[Vee3]

Do you understand the fundamental difference in nature of revolvers and bolt actions versus semi-autos?

What I "understand" about rimfires was learned over half a century of owning, building, repairing and shooting ~60 of them; not via reading about guns on the internet (and posting nonsense).

Fact of the matter is, most cheap bulk rimfire ammo works fine for the majority of semi-auto owners' needs. It wouldn't be the manufacturers' hottest selling type of .22 ammo if it were causing millions of guns to jam because it's "not suited for semi-autos."

[Fishslayer]

Most bulk packs are not suited for semi-autos...it's about the brass.

Balderdash & poppycock!

[golfish]

Balderdash & poppycock!

Clearly you don't understand

[Vee3]

You ducked the question.

What I "ducked," Mr. Rabbit, was the fish you tossed out.

Do you understand the difference between a red herring and staying on topic?

Red Herring: Something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue.[1] It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences towards a false conclusion.

Even more importantly, you made an error in logic...

No, i simply avoided taking the bait of your logical fallacy. Now back to the topic at hand...

Bulk rimfire ammo is designed by the manufacturers to operate in semi-auto firearms. And operate it does; billions of rounds over decades of successful use by millions of shooters prove it conclusively. End of story.

[G.F.C.]

So, moving away from debate tactics, I shoot automatch exclusively through my Marlin Model 60. When I first got my rifle it wouldn't cycle anything. After polishing the feed throat, feed ramp, and the entire bolt assembly it functions 100%. It only stops when it's too dirty to continue. Have you done any work on the various guns like that to see if it would help?