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  • #16
    Apollo
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 868

    Originally posted by LynnJr
    To step up here are some steps.
    Remington 513T
    Winchester 52
    Richard Gorhman custom
    And the pinnacle would be a Calfee.
    How do you feel about the new CZ rifles?
    Time spent hunting is not deducted from one's lifespan.

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    • #17
      Mac Attack
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 2126

      + what CJ5 said. Shoot what you have and learn the fundamentals before investing your money. Btw the only perfect score in the CMP Rimfire Sporter competitions was shot with a upgraded 10/22.

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      • #18
        LynnJr
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2013
        • 7958

        Originally posted by Apollo
        How do you feel about the new CZ rifles?

        I've got one but haven't really shot it that much.
        For a great shooting budget gun the Remington 513 with a decent full sized scope is more accurate than most shooters will ever need.
        The next step up is more costly at $800-1000 with the 52
        The Gorhman is strictly a Benchrest rig at $3000 and the Calfee can go $20,000+ if it has a pedigree of national wins.
        Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
        Southwest Regional Director
        Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
        www.unlimitedrange.org
        Not a commercial business.
        URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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        • #19
          Stumpy6653
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 395

          Thank you all for your input.
          Remington 700 .308
          B&C Medalist #2, Harris Bipod
          Timney 517 trigger, AICS Bottom Metal/Magazine
          Bushnell Elite Tactical FFP Scope
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          • #20
            Stumpy6653
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 395

            Originally posted by Jeepergeo
            Firing unknown reloads in anything is dangerous.
            What?
            Remington 700 .308
            B&C Medalist #2, Harris Bipod
            Timney 517 trigger, AICS Bottom Metal/Magazine
            Bushnell Elite Tactical FFP Scope
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            • #21
              Stumpy6653
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 395

              Originally posted by AceGirlsHusband
              What do you mean by "precision?" Are you saying you want to shoot ARA/rimfire bench competitions? Or is this more informal and you want to plink bottle caps at a hundred? Oh, and RawHP's question about budget is a big deal.
              I am wondering about the ARA/Rimfire competitions.

              I am not wealthy. So budget is an issue.
              Remington 700 .308
              B&C Medalist #2, Harris Bipod
              Timney 517 trigger, AICS Bottom Metal/Magazine
              Bushnell Elite Tactical FFP Scope
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              • #22
                Stumpy6653
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 395

                Originally posted by Carcassonne
                I was in the same situation as you several months ago. Since I did not have a lot of money, a real 22LR target gun was out of the question. I almost bought a Savage Mark II FV-SR last month with Savage's $30 rebate. It would have come to $260 before tax and DROS.

                I did not like the feel of that gun and decided I would just spend the money on a better barrel for my 10/22.

                This was the gun http://www.big5sportinggoods.com/sto...8&siteScope=ok

                You can get it for $285 today, July 4th, if you use this 5% off coupon. http://www.big5sportinggoods.com/sto...IwMDIxNzgwOQS2



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                That is a good price for me. Thank you for the information.
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                B&C Medalist #2, Harris Bipod
                Timney 517 trigger, AICS Bottom Metal/Magazine
                Bushnell Elite Tactical FFP Scope
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                • #23
                  Stumpy6653
                  Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 395

                  Originally posted by jimmykan
                  When you talk about "Precision .22" you should really discuss the ammunition before you discuss the rifle.

                  What version of 10/22 do you have? It may be accurate enough for your purposes if you feed it the right ammunition.

                  A typical Ruger 10/22 with standard barrel shooting loose-pack bulk ammo should group around 3 inches or better at 50 yards.
                  If you feed it some Federal Automatch (a.k.a. the best of the bulk ammo IMO) or CCI Mini-Mags, the rifle should group around 2 inches.
                  Shoot some CCI Standard Velocity or equivalent subsonic round, and you'll see your groups shrink down to 1 to 1.5 inches.

                  A Ruger 10/22 with a heavy target barrel from Kidd, Green Mountain etc. can benefit further by shooting high quality target ammunition, such as Wolf Match Target, SK Standard Plus.
                  3/4 inch groups at 50 yards are easy, and after finding a brand that the rifle seems to favor then 1/2 inch groups are not uncommon.

                  The mid-grade bolt action rifles like CZ 452s, Savage Mark IIs, Ruger American Rimfires etc. MIGHT be able to produce slightly tighter groups (in the form of fewer fliers) using slightly lower quality ammunition, but no 22 rifle, bolt or auto, will shoot tiny groups using loose-pack bulk ammo, at least not consistently.

                  Until you you are willing to pay $0.15 - $0.30 per round for 22 ammo, does a proper target rifle like an Anschutz 64 or straight-pull biathlon rifle make sense.

                  Here is a cool graphic from RWS Ammunition that illustrates what to expect from target guns shooting target ammunition.

                  Thank you so much for the information.

                  I have a modified - stock, barrel and scope. Haven't done the trigger yet.

                  I will try the ammunition that you are suggesting and see if I can get it down to 1" or so.
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                  B&C Medalist #2, Harris Bipod
                  Timney 517 trigger, AICS Bottom Metal/Magazine
                  Bushnell Elite Tactical FFP Scope
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                  • #24
                    Milsurp Collector
                    Calguns Addict
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 5884

                    Originally posted by Stumpy6653
                    I have a modified - stock, barrel and scope. Haven't done the trigger yet.
                    Since you are on a budget, consider this Ruger BX trigger group for your 10/22 https://grabagun.com/ruger-25.html

                    It is a drop-in replacement for the standard trigger group and it takes only a few minutes to install. I put one in my 10/22.

                    Last edited by Milsurp Collector; 10-07-2017, 4:27 PM.
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                    Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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                    • #25
                      traveler1952
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 595

                      I have a 10/22 stainless target model.
                      It's pretty much tack driver at 100 yards with decent ammo.
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                      • #26
                        joe47
                        Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 475

                        Originally posted by covingtonhouse
                        Savage Mk II BV with a 6-18x40. Tripod and rear bag, with SK std + gets me 1/2-3/4" @ 100 yds with an occaisional flyer. With RWS R50 or Eley Blue box gets me 1/2" groups all day long. Ammo makes a huge difference. I had a first run 10/22T back in the mid 90's that loved CCI standard velocity ammo. 10/22 aftermarket stuff can turn it into a tack driver if you have some bucks to spend. I havn't shot the CZ's but they are fine looking rifles. You might look into an older Mossberg trainer rifle or CMP rifle if you can find one for sale somewhere.
                        1/2 inch groups with RWS R50 at 100 yds, better keep that Savage MK II BV.

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                        • #27
                          6mmintl
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 4822

                          Go to a bench rest, smallbore silhouette, or tactical match to see whats used and actions preference/cost

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                          • #28
                            Kwikvette
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 3704

                            CZ455, match ammunition, and a quality scope should net you 1/2" to 1/4" groups at 50 yards.
                            Originally posted by longrange1
                            my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                            Originally posted by XDJYo
                            Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                            • #29
                              AceGirlsHusband
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 2651

                              Originally posted by Stumpy6653
                              I am wondering about the ARA/Rimfire competitions.

                              I am not wealthy. So budget is an issue.
                              Killoughs Shooting Sports in Texas. Go online to the store. They sell used BR rifles that can get you going at a minimal outlay. And these will be serious rimfire bench rifles that really shoot.

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                              • #30
                                usmcchet9296
                                CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 1834

                                Originally posted by Apollo
                                How do you feel about the new CZ rifles?
                                I have one a 455PVT/Manners
                                it will shoot MOA with the right ammo and weather
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