Target pistol jamming

[brownfeathermedic]

i was at the range today, shooting my safe queen. She's a 7 1/4 in fluted barrel High Standard Citation. First of all , I was firing new Winchester ammo,and with her original magazine. The first mag shot flawless. After that it was a continuance of jamming on 3 rd ,6th rnd, then it was all the time after that . The bullet nose would bend itself while trying to make it to the breach. I don't know if it's magazine spring fatigue or it really didn't like the copper nose Winchester . Any help would be appreciated . Thanks . PS . Would anyone know where I can buy oem mags for my gun?

[readysetgo]

Is it possible it prefers standard velocity, the HV messing the timing of the action up?

Looks like Numrich has 'replacement' mags (Triple K?): https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufac...dard-33296.htm

[beerman]

I would try different ammo. Target guns can be picky, although H/S guns seem less prone to me then others. H/S guns are mag picky though.Was the mag dropped during reloading? Is the gun clean and oiled proper?
As for replacement mags..good luck..Ebay or gunbroker is about it. I think its likely a minor problem.

[Pardini]

Don't use HV ammo in a HS.

The feed lip dimensions are critical to proper feeding. There's a gauge you can buy to get the dimensions right. I think the instructions are posted on the High standard website.

[brownfeathermedic]

Thanks everyone for your help. Yes, I do my utmost best not to drop mags ,cause I know they damage easily, and I take care to have the gun cleaned after every shoot. I didn't know about the nose length of the HV rounds would be a problem but I will use a variety of .22 on her next shoot. Thanks Men.

[stevec223]

If the Win ammo is the 333 bulk hp look at its flat point profile ,,, with the hp in its center... This ammo is not truly a round nose with a hp centered... I have found this ammo to be truly low grade ,,, flat profile with loose bullets.... Lots of fails to feed in my semi-autos,, with bolt guns its ok only,,, hits target hard with its flat profile .... Cheers...

[003]

I had a similar issue with my S&W model 41. Mine was ejection failures. Turned out I was not keeping the chamber as clean as I should. A tight target chamber needs to be spotless to function reliability. I am now meticulous about cleaning the chamber and bore after every range session. No issues.

https://www.jackfirstgun.com/index.php

Give Jack First a call on the magazines.

[brownfeathermedic]

I hear you. The tolerances on upper scale guns won't allow for much play , either for ammo nor dirtiness . I'll get a report as soon as I can . My day was taken up with backed up sewer pipe, and to top it off was having lunch and lost a front incisor today . Well , it could be worse right ??? I"d rather be shooting !!!

[1recluse]

My bet is the magazine! OEM magazines are frequently on ebay, they are generally expensive.

[tjsimons]

Target pistol jamming

+1 on the Standard Velocity only; not only can HV cause feeding issues, it beats your gun up and can crack the frame. I have a Supermatic Trophy model, and SV is all I feed it. Brownells sells the magazine adjustment tool.

[Mnort10x]

These are a few things that you might want to try.

1) take the barrel off and clean it, drop test your ammo and if it doesn't drop into the chamber freely, try a different ammo. I use SK Standard Plus
and have no problems, a lot of other ammo will cause you grief.

2) magazine lips might need adjusting. Details are shown here.

https://www.highstandardpartsonline.com/High%20Standard%20Magazine%20Adjustments%20Models102-107%20PTS1.pdf

once everything is running I make sure that I use the same magazine fitted to any High Standard I own, don't mix them to different pistols.

They are great guns when they run right.

Good Luck.

[teflondog]

If it's Winchester Super-X then that's definitely the cause of your issues. The QC is poor and I often have failures to extract due to bulged cases. I prefer CCI Standard Velocity in target guns.