CZ 455 PT .22lr

[Kwikvette]

Let's say you own a CZ455 PT with 16.5" barrel and you want to put 5-10 shots in one tiny hole at 100 yards;

Would you keep the stock barrel and continue trying different types of ammo until you find the one that works best?

I've only tried CCI copper head and Remington Golden Bullets. I haven't tried my Federal Auto Match or Winchester stuff since I figured it'll group worse. Have over 10k rounds of each but I figured it's cheap plinking ammo and wouldn't group well.

I've got Wolf Match on order but in the meantime I've been contemplating trying a different barrel. I could just order other types of match ammo and continue stockpiling.

What say you Calguns?!

[gityerkneedahn]

I'd say try better ammo, so far as I'm aware the cci copper is ok at best over even short ranges, GB's and AM are plinking grade at best.

Try CCI sv and go from there, whatever you use one tiny hole at 100yds is quite a feat, a good rest, good optics and good conditions will also play a huge role.


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[Holding Name 1]

A lilja barrel will offer greater accuracy but ammo plays the bigger part. Get a box of match eley.

[penguin0123]

Subsonic ammo. When supersonic bullets go subsonic, they pattern like a shotgun.

[Kwikvette]

I'd say try better ammo, so far as I'm aware the cci copper is ok at best over even short ranges, GB's and AM are plinking grade at best.

Try CCI sv and go from there, whatever you use one tiny hole at 100yds is quite a feat, a good rest, good optics and good conditions will also play a huge role.


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Bolt guns are easier to shoot; I shoot tiny holes with AR's. I just want to be utilize the 455 the way it's supposed to; to be able to shoot often while maintaining the basic principles of precision shooting (all while being much more affordable).

My schedule doesn't allow me to travel much to shoot long distances.

A lilja barrel will offer greater accuracy but ammo plays the bigger part. Get a box of match eley.

I was going to order some Eley Tenex and that's when I was recommended Wolf Match. Apparently it's the same as the SK match ammunition. Wondering what other match grade stuff is available out there.

[gityerkneedahn]

Over on rimfire central they have monthly 100yd challenge in the cz forum, worth a look, you'll get an idea of different set-ups, ammo used etc... some friendly knowledgeable peeps over there.


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[Kwikvette]

Over on rimfire central they have monthly 100yd challenge in the cz forum, worth a look, you'll get an idea of different set-ups, ammo used etc... some friendly knowledgeable peeps over there.


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Haven't thought about that, thanks!

[AceGirlsHusband]

Keep the goal do-able and you'll be happier. My goal in 50-yard benchrest is to put 5-10 shots in "one tiny hole." At a hundred yards I've never seen that done even with a $10K custom bench rifle with a one-piece rest... at least not outdoors. Remember you're dealing with a subsonic, 40gr, solid lead projectile that the slightest breeze will take off course. At 50 yards, with my 27.1" bbl Anschutz 2013BR-50, a 5 mph wind will move my impact point 1/4".

This will be a fun build. Shoot for better-than-MOA at 100. At 50, it'll be tight!

[Kwikvette]

Keep the goal do-able and you'll be happier. My goal in 50-yard benchrest is to put 5-10 shots in "one tiny hole." At a hundred yards I've never seen that done even with a $10K custom bench rifle with a one-piece rest... at least not outdoors. Remember you're dealing with a subsonic, 40gr, solid lead projectile that the slightest breeze will take off course. At 50 yards, with my 27.1" bbl Anschutz 2013BR-50, a 5 mph wind will move my impact point 1/4".

This will be a fun build. Shoot for better-than-MOA at 100. At 50, it'll be tight!

That's what I was assuming when I first bought my .22lr bolt. I figured with such a light round, under 1 MOA would be bragging rights. Then I've read on this forum and others how 100 yards is easy to do, etc. so I'm having mixed feelings about the whole thing.

At 50 yards, she gets between .50" - .90" 5 shot groups with the Golden Bullet stuff. This is on the bench with Atlas Bipod.

[AceGirlsHusband]

Under 1 MOA at 100 WILL be bragging rights. Forget the forums and blogs: everyone is a marksman and 2500 shooter on the keyboard. If the stock CZ bbl is printing MOA at 50 with Golden Bullets, you've got a great, all-purpose chamber and bore to start with. Just remember most match .22 is designed to perform at 50 yards. Try some RWS R-100 (available from Anschutz North America) in that CZ and see what happens at a hundred. The R-100 has a bit more velocity (about 1100 fps) - so not quite so much drop at the century mark and a little less hang time.

[Milsurps]

Keep the stock barrel, buy _SV_ ammo instead!

[pa hunter]

I own 9 CZs and they all like different ammo. Most shoot lights out with RWS R50. I have a couple that like Wolf MT. I think what you are trying to do is almost impossible but it is fun trying. I am at the range every weekend with my 4 daughters (37 to 27) we can get 1 hole groups at 50 yds but the wind and ammo limits your groups at 100.

[Kwikvette]

I've got more groups at home but you catch my drift.

I'll attempt 1 MOA at 100 yards next time I go out then

[joe47]

Keep the goal do-able and you'll be happier. My goal in 50-yard benchrest is to put 5-10 shots in "one tiny hole." At a hundred yards I've never seen that done even with a $10K custom bench rifle with a one-piece rest... at least not outdoors. Remember you're dealing with a subsonic, 40gr, solid lead projectile that the slightest breeze will take off course. At 50 yards, with my 27.1" bbl Anschutz 2013BR-50, a 5 mph wind will move my impact point 1/4".

This will be a fun build. Shoot for better-than-MOA at 100. At 50, it'll be tight!

Finally someone using their head and being practical. I love my CZ's and one is "tricked out to the max" but still won't make tiny holes at 100 yds. I can shoot 3/8 holes all day at 50 yds and an occasional 1/4, but they spread out at 100. Buy the best ammo that you can find to get the smallest holes. Plinking ammo like Federal auto match won't even come close.

[michael1one]

Over on rimfire central they have monthly 100yd challenge in the cz forum, worth a look, you'll get an idea of different set-ups, ammo used etc... some friendly knowledgeable peeps over there.


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+1 on rimfire central. I am not a member there just doing research to see which rimfire i should get. Seems like ammo is the #1 priority. Barrel is second (some cz varmint barrels are not as good as stock, but Lilja is consistantly good. Last is trigger or stock.