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  • Elgatodeacero
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 1293

    CCI Copper-22 hi velocity

    i tried these at the range today and wanted share my experience.

    i was using the version with the lead free 21 grain bullet at advertised velocity of 1850 fps.

    I fired a box of 50 of these through a 10/22 Takedown, a Packrifle single shot, and a CZ 452 American. Feed and function was fine in all rifles, including the 10/22.

    Accuracy was pretty poor, and at 50 yards using a CZ 452 with scope set at 9x I was getting 10 shot groups of 3-4 inches. 10 shots of CCI Standard Velocity made a ragged hole of about 3/4 inch today. It was cold, very heavy rain, and some gusting wind.

    Labradar showed none of the shots were faster than the high 1600's. no shot in any rifle broke 1700 fps. Some shots were in the high 1300's and low 1400's, with most close to 1600 fps, and many down around 1500.

    At 25 yards you could hit a squirrel or rabbit, but 50 yards would be tough.

    Not sure why these are so erratic in velocity. Better than nothing for close range hunting, but they have a ways to go before anyone will use them voluntarily.
    Last edited by Elgatodeacero; 02-20-2017, 4:42 PM.
  • #2
    adchrome
    Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 198

    Thanks for the info. ..definitely not normal for cci, hope they improve accuracy moving forward

    Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk

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    • #3
      Litespeeds
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 3260

      Hate to say it but nothing beats the CCI Standard Velocity unless you want to spend big bucks on match grade ammo. Another one you should try is CCI Blazer. CCI Mini Mags are pretty good too but it all depends on what you shoot it from. I think everything loves the CCI SV except for some semi-auto pistols that require HV ammo to cycle the slide.

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      • #4
        Elgatodeacero
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 1293

        these are purely for when required by hunting laws, 2019 I think.

        i was hoping for much better accuracy.

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        • #5
          brianinca
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 359

          Originally posted by Elgatodeacero
          these are purely for when required by hunting laws, 2019 I think.

          i was hoping for much better accuracy.
          Unfortunately, that's exactly why I bought them, our ranch is in a "condor" zone that hasn't seen a condor in 60 years. Shooting pests like ground squirrels is a strictly non-lead affair at this point. My old man squirrel gun is a Henry Mini-Bolt, which is a fine little 3.5 lb rifle, and your accuracy results are consistent with mine. I hope the stupidity of Federal regs regarding lead bullets gets overturned but if it doesn't at least we have the prospect of some decent non-lead 22LR in five years or so.

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          • #6
            Rosebud22
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 502

            A while ago I bought some Winchester tin rounds. They were not as accurate as
            lead, but a lot better than what you are getting out of the CCI copper. I have not seen them (tin) in a long time, so don't even know if they are still made.

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            • #7
              plumbum
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2010
              • 5394

              Thank you for your efforts.

              I'm starting to think hunting with a .22 LR is off the books soon. Do we know if other rim fire calibers are translating to 'lead-free' better than others?
              Originally posted by ysr_racer
              Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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              • #8
                newbie1234
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 3121

                Originally posted by Elgatodeacero
                i was using the version with the lead free 21 grain bullet at advertised velocity of 1850 fps.

                Labradar showed none of the shots were faster than the high 1600's. no shot in any rifle broke 1700 fps. Some shots were in the high 1300's and low 1400's, with most close to 1600 fps, and many down around 1500.

                .
                Correct me if I am wrong. The ammo box shows 1850 fps. But on your Lab-Radar your reading were most around 1500-1600 fps (or 10%-20% off).
                So either you did not calibrate your Lab-Radar or 1800 fps (ultra fast velocity) ammo did not fast enough.

                This is a very good info that you provide. Most of my 22LR ammo are HV, I start to stack up SV from now on.

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                • #9
                  5.56
                  Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 470

                  .22 rounds start to lose their stability at extreme velocities which contributes to why the accuracy he's reported is so poor. This is very common. Many people find their best accuracy to be within 50-100 yards and with subsonic or standard velocity because the bullets have a more stable trajectory. Wind and other conditions do effect this, but not severely within 100 yards. I'm guessing the bullet's are so light on the copper CCI's because they're expensive and they're trying to save weight. Also, most people wont make a squirrel shot at real far distances and if they miss, you only need to wait a couple minutes for the squirrel to reemerge and you get another chance.

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