Ruger 10/22 newbie has questions

[accel]

Hi, I bought new ruger 10 23 takedown andvtried federall lrn ~1200fps ammo ladt weekend .

Wouldn't say I was happy with reliability. ~200 rounds and several stovepipes, a couple ftfs.

Other than picking better ammo, what can be done to improve reliability at rifle end?

I've dissassembled, cleaned and lubricated the rifle day before. I might've overlubricated it, but it didn't get dirty enough for that to be an issue.

The ruger would be an intro rifle for my dsughter, so I'd like to make it as reliable as possible.

[E Michael]

Hi, I bought new ruger 10 23 takedown andvtried federall lrn ~1200fps ammo ladt weekend .

Wouldn't say I was happy with reliability. ~200 rounds and several stovepipes, a couple ftfs.

Other than picking better ammo, what can be done to improve reliability at rifle end?

I've dissassembled, cleaned and lubricated the rifle day before. I might've overlubricated it, but it didn't get dirty enough for that to be an issue.

The ruger would be an intro rifle for my dsughter, so I'd like to make it as reliable as possible.

Change the extractor. it will help with any fte.

[slicksetter]

Did the rifle get less reliable over time? I agree you could change the extractor to volqursten or kid. But that rifle isn't even broken in yet 200 rounds is nothing. When you disassemble next time take a scotch Brite pad to the inside of the reciver to take out the roughness/overspray inside. Also don't run the bolt to wet with oil or grease it will become gummy. Some even use a dry lube.

[accel]

It is new, ~200 rounds total. I'll clean/degrease and try to identify if there's a problem with one of the magazines.

[newbie1234]

I have the same Ruger 10/22 Take Down rifle. Here the run down of my rifle from the day 1:
- The first 100 shots was CCI Mini Mag
- The next 325 shots was Federal Auto Match (Black& White box, this is bunk ammo)
- And then after that is combined of couple thousand of CCI Mini mag + CCI Std Vel + Fed Auto Match ammo that I do not remember. Those are three .22LR ammo that I had.

BTW , As I recalled I had no problem with the 10/22 Take Down at all, and I shoot 70 rds at at time b/c I had 7 mags , load them up shoot them all.

[oilcanhenry]

Hi, I bought new ruger 10 23 takedown andvtried federall lrn ~1200fps ammo ladt weekend .

Wouldn't say I was happy with reliability. ~200 rounds and several stovepipes, a couple ftfs.

Other than picking better ammo, what can be done to improve reliability at rifle end?

I've dissassembled, cleaned and lubricated the rifle day before. I might've overlubricated it, but it didn't get dirty enough for that to be an issue.

The ruger would be an intro rifle for my dsughter, so I'd like to make it as reliable as possible.

Trade it in for a Marlin .22 LR. Those shoot right out of the box. Ruger quality control is flat out gone nowadays. You can try a KIDD bolt, however.

[accel]

Trade it in for a Marlin .22 LR. Those shoot right out of the box. Ruger quality control is flat out gone nowadays. You can try a KIDD bolt, however.

I needed the takedown....

P.S. But that rules out Ruger as revolver candidate off my list.

[sovereign2b]

I needed the takedown....

P.S. But that rules out Ruger as revolver candidate off my list.

Don't rule out their revolvers - or the 10/22 just yet. Try cleaning up the inside of the receiver and drying it off a bit, as mentioned above. Try different ammo and find out what it likes. Give it some time. I have a couple of 10/22's and an old Marlin 60, and they all run just fine.

[TMB 1]

I just got a new 10/22 but not a TD. So far zero failures with auto match and six different mags.

[oilcanhenry]

I needed the takedown....

P.S. But that rules out Ruger as revolver candidate off my list.

One of the reasons, according to many people, that Californians are stuck with
the ten round magazine limit is, in part, because of Ruger's designs. The Mark III
pistol and the 10/22 rifle being perfect examples.

I will however claim that the Ruger Mini-14 was a good design, but it needs a
thicker, better barrel design to compete with an AR-15 or M-4 semi-automatic 5.56. NATO.

I will never again touch any Sturm-Ruger firearm ever, having said all that. As someone who has shot many .22 LR rifles,
you can't beat a Marlin 60 or 795. They will eat anything you put into them, and NO aftermarket bolts, ect. needed.

[oilcanhenry]

Don't rule out their revolvers - or the 10/22 just yet. Try cleaning up the inside of the receiver and drying it off a bit, as mentioned above. Try different ammo and find out what it likes. Give it some time. I have a couple of 10/22's and an old Marlin 60, and they all run just fine.

The older Ruger 10/22's seemed to work fairly well. It been the last ten years
or so that I have seen a deterioration in the quality of the workmanship.

That said, yeah getting the inner receiver cleaned up will help but the new
bolts are pieces of you-know-what. The KIDD bolt is the best solution, IMO.

[TMB 1]

One of the reasons, according to many people, that Californians are stuck with
the ten round magazine limit is, in part, because of Ruger's designs. The Mark III
pistol and the 10/22 rifle being perfect examples.

I will however claim that the Ruger Mini-14 was a good design, but it needs a
thicker, better barrel design to compete with an AR-15 or M-4 semi-automatic 5.56. NATO.

I will never again touch any Sturm-Ruger firearm ever, having said all that. As someone who has shot many .22 LR rifles,
you can't beat a Marlin 60 or 795. They will eat anything you put into them, and NO aftermarket bolts, ect. needed.

If it wasn't for Bill Ruger, Bill Clinton would have banned all semi autos. Bill Ruger pushed for 10rnd mags trying to save all semi autos from being banned.

Because Ruger wasn't total defiant of the federal AW ban a lot of people boycotted Ruger. I think he just seen it was going to happen no matter what at the time and tried saving his firearms from the ban.

[oilcanhenry]

If it wasn't for Bill Ruger, Bill Clinton would have banned all semi autos. Bill Ruger pushed for 10rnd mags trying to save all semi autos from being banned.

Because Ruger wasn't total defiant of the federal AW ban a lot of people boycotted Ruger. I think he just seen it was going to happen no matter what at the time and tried saving his firearms from the ban.

I would have liked to have seen a full ban on semi-autos instead of the death by a thousand cuts that we are seeing in many states. It may have woken up
people who otherwise stayed asleep, as we see now. You see, the 1994 AW ban was a test-run to see how far the gun-grabbers can take it to the limit, thus
the sunset in 2004, which was threatened on becoming permanent at the time.

What you are saying is only partially correct. Ruger did what he did to save his company, but he didn't do it out of any patriotism ( the REAL kind, not the hogwash we see today. The stock wooden Ruger Mini-14, which is basically a featureless rifle, was never in the sights of the assault weapons ban anyhow:

"The best way to address the firepower concern is therefore not to try to outlaw or license many millions of older and perfectly legitimate firearms (which would be a licensing effort of staggering proportions) but to prohibit the possession of high capacity magazines. By a simple, complete and unequivocal ban on large capacity magazines, all the difficulty of defining 'assault rifle' and 'semi-automatic rifles' is eliminated. The large capacity magazine itself, separate or attached to the firearm, becomes the prohibited item. A single amendment to Federal firearms laws could effectively implement these objectives."

William B. Ruger-March 30, 1989.


BTW, what I have said about the modern day manufactured 10-22 still stands, regardless of Bill Ruger's politics and his proposed FEDERAL ban on "high capacity" magazines.

I find it more then a bit ironic that Ruger Corporation now sells the 25 round BX-25 "high capacity" magazines. But then Bill Ruger died in 2002, so I'll let that
slide by. However, Bill wanted the NFA-1934 amended to outlaw magazines greater then 15 rounds and THAT I will not forgive or forget, since the NFA-1934 is, and always was, unconstitutional in the first place. Same thing with the GCA-1968, 34 years later. What part about shall NOT be infringed don't we understand?

That said the new Ruger 10-22's suck, an its only because there are so many aftermarket parts available for it that it still sells well, IMO. I dont see the logic in that when you can buy a Marlin 60 or 795 that eats anything that you load it with. BTW, You will ALWAYS have some dud/ftf .22 rounds in any rimfire ammo.

Want a 25 round mag for the Marlin 795? Two companies make those, but of course they are illegal in CA and other communist Blue demo-rat infested states.

Oh well, I guess Tony Kidd and company are making a killing off of their 10-22 parts market. That way you can buy an overpriced rifle that doesn't function well and spend hundreds of more dollars to do what a Marlin 60/795 will do from the factory. Its like buying a Harley-Davidson. Its ONLY the name that sells that crap motorcycle.

[Chaos47]

I needed the takedown....

P.S. But that rules out Ruger as revolver candidate off my list.

Obviously you don't know that Marlin has been making a takedown version of the 70/795, the 70P Papoose for 3 DECADES before Ruger even had the idea to make a 10/22 takedown version..


Oh but do tell us how you needed the takedown for you and your daughter. I'm sure as a need that it should be as reliable and accurate as possible out of the box. As in to fill the need to put food on your table?.. and that you didn't buy into hype instead..

[keith1911]

Every Ruger rimfire (15+ years) I've ever bought new needed about 1000 rounds to break in and then they were reliable. Heck I've got a rifle that will eat that Golden Bullet crap from Remington now that it's broken in.