Marlin 795 question -- need your help

[beatstanfurd]

Have a question for any Marlin 795 owners. Against better judgement, I installed the DIP trigger, DIP bottom metal, and Mcarbo springs without initially taking my 795LTR to the range and fully testing it. Its all back together and function testing it with snap caps, everything appears to be working as expected, with one possible exception. Without a magazine in the magwell, cycling the bolt doesn't lock the hammer back. To be honest, I can't recall if cycling the bolt manually without a magazine locked the hammer back or not pre modifications. Can someone with a 795 verify if the hammer gets cocked when cycling the bolt manually without a magazine in the magwell? Really want to avoid tearing it all apart again if its behaving as expected.

Thanks in advance.

[chrisbw]

Well the 795 has a magazine disconnect safety so if you have a dead trigger without a mag inserted that's how it's supposed to work. That said the mag disconnect is easily defeated.

[beatstanfurd]

Already bypassed the mag disconnect. Also, my understanding is that it prevents the release of the hammer, not the cocking of it.

[Chaos47]

Yes of course the hammer should be getting cocked and held back when the bolt is racked with or without a magazine in.

Just making sure I understand what is happening:
You are pulling the bolt back.
Letting go.
And the hammer is fallowing the bolt home?

That is a seriously dangerous condition! If loaded it sounds like you could have a run away!

IMO the problem probably lies with the top adjustment screw of the DIP trigger is probably screwed too far out and is causing a "preload" of the trigger.. actually worse then a preload but a full load...

You need to back the screw out some!

OR If I am mistaking what you are describing and you actually mean that when you pull the bolt back the hammer is not cocking at all then you need to back out the bottom screw to allow the hammer to reset.

BTW IMO You should do a bump test also when you are working with triggers that have adjustment screws... Once you back your screw(s) out a bit and get things working properly. Cock the unloaded rifle and either softly drop it from a couple feet on its butt on carpet (don't do this if you have a scope) or give the butt a couple good slaps is you have a scope.

[beatstanfurd]

Chaos, thank you for your reply. It's the latter. Hammer is not cocking at all when I cycle the bolt without a magazine. I believe you are correct about needing to double check the trigger pre and post travel screws. What I don't get is everything works fine with a magazine. I'll take it all apart after work and put it back together.

[beatstanfurd]

So, I took apart the action all the way down to each individual part. Put it all back together again and only occasionally fail to cock the hammer now when I cycle the bolt without a magazine. Also, if I use the bolt hold open lever to lock it back, the hammer appears to always be cocked after releasing the bolt.

If I had to venture a guess, I think its the disconnector spring and it not staying flush against the side of the action. Think its possible that the disconnector is not resetting, preventing the hammer locking back and staying cocked?

With the Mcarbo springs, I've got the trigger pull down to 3lbs and I did slam test it and the hammer never dropped. I may have to try the original disconnector spring to see if it helps with the problem. I'll try to give them a call too.

[Chaos47]

Weird issues. I don't have Mcarbo springs, I hand tweaked my factory springs long before Mcarbo existed. So I can't really help you with issues caused by them.

I know, you know now but in the future do one mod at a time and make sure everything is working before you do the next. Because doing it all at once can introduce too many variables to try to track down.

Goodluck! And keep us posted.