H&r 22 Special issue

[edgarchavez]

Hey, been having this problem and have no idea what it could be.. So I have this 22 top break and everything is fine except the ejector. When I break it open all the way it only comes partially up, and doesnt go back down. Ive cleaned and oiled it so its must be a broken part. I'll include a pic. Thanks!

[MrOrange]

Have you detail stripped it? Asking because the bits that might be broken should be obvious when the frame is separated from the barrel/cylinder assembly.

There's a hook on the disc in the middle of the hinge that pushes on the end of the ejector when the gun is opened. When the rotation gets to a certain point, the ejector slips off the hook and snaps back.

So there could be gunk built up blocking the fall of the ejector off the hook. When you push down on the ejector, does it seem like it's solid metal on metal stuck in place? Seems like if the hook was broken, the ejector would not lift properly, as opposed to not releasing.

Here's a schematic of a hammerless H&R at the Numrich site, the parts in the hinge should be the same. #40 is the disc I mentioned.

Schematic

[edgarchavez]

Have you detail stripped it? Asking because the bits that might be broken should be obvious when the frame is separated from the barrel/cylinder assembly.

There's a hook on the disc in the middle of the hinge that pushes on the end of the ejector when the gun is opened. When the rotation gets to a certain point, the ejector slips off the hook and snaps back.

So there could be gunk built up blocking the fall of the ejector off the hook. When you push down on the ejector, does it seem like it's solid metal on metal stuck in place? Seems like if the hook was broken, the ejector would not lift properly, as opposed to not releasing.

Here's a schematic of a hammerless H&R at the Numrich site, the parts in the hinge should be the same. #40 is the disc I mentioned.

Schematic

Took it apart, nothing seemed broken and the hook seemed fine. I'll post a picture. Also when I pushed didn't on the ejector, it didn't move and did, and i'm assuming this is because the hook doesn't let it slip? Thanks



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[MrOrange]

On my .32 H&R, the ejector doesn't snap back until the barrel is way past vertical, like another 30 degrees until it bottoms out against the frame. Maybe there's something blocking the rotation? If the hook/disc wasn't staying in place like it should, then I'd think it wouldn't raise the ejector at all, like when you pull back the latch on the bottom of the hinge before opening.

Shudda mentioned before, you might want to post this in the C&R section, probably more people with knowledge of the platform in there.


ETA: See the pic now; is that the way the disc came out of the gun? The hook should be facing the other way, as shown in the schematic.

[edgarchavez]

On my .32 H&R, the ejector doesn't snap back until the barrel is way past vertical, like another 30 degrees until it bottoms out against the frame. Maybe there's something blocking the rotation? If the hook/disc wasn't staying in place like it should, then I'd think it wouldn't raise the ejector at all, like when you pull back the latch on the bottom of the hinge before opening.

Shudda mentioned before, you might want to post this in the C&R section, probably more people with knowledge of the platform in there.


ETA: See the pic now; is that the way the disc came out of the gun? The hook should be facing the other way, as shown in the schematic.

Completely forgot about posting it on c&r.. I tried putting it in the other way but it gets stuck and basically doesn't work.

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[MrOrange]

Part #41, "hook spring", is what moves the hook (disc) out of the way of the ejector to release the ejector to snap back, don't see one in your pic, is that missing?

[edgarchavez]

Part #41, "hook spring", is what moves the hook (disc) out of the way of the ejector to release the ejector to snap back, don't see one in your pic, is that missing?

No "hook spring" the picture shows the only parts that were there. Took a look at the sportsman 999 schematics and didn't see the spring. Also tried to find that part on the 22 special list on numrich and couldn't find it. Thanks





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[desertjosh]

Tagged I have the same gun. Great shooters, hopefully you get this issue resolved

[TRAP55]

The hook on the extractor cam is facing the right way. You're missing the extractor cam latch and spring. The latch fits in the slot on the side of the cam, and a short, flat, curved, spring holds it in place.
They have a bad habit of launching into another dimension when pulled out.

[edgarchavez]

Tagged I have the same gun. Great shooters, hopefully you get this issue resolved

They sure are !

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[edgarchavez]

The hook on the extractor cam is facing the right way. You're missing the extractor cam latch and spring. The latch fits in the slot on the side of the cam, and a short, flat, curved, spring holds it in place.
They have a bad habit of launching into another dimension when pulled out.

Could you get a picture for me? I would really appreciate it ! Thanks

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[TRAP55]

H&R called it a "hook slide", but I can't find a schematic of your specific gun. H&R, IJ, and S&W, all used something similar.
To give you an idea what it looks like, here's a Model 999 schematic:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/HarringtonRichardson-33274/Revolvers-36449/999-38120.htm?results=All

And a S&W New Departure schematic that shows how the part and spring fit:

http://stevespages.com/ipb-sandw-newdeparture.html

Keep in mind, all these top break manufactures, might have several different part variations for the same model. Makes it a real PITA trying to find the right missing parts!
FYI, "call" Numrich and ask for a tech before ordering so he will know the exact model and parts you need. Trust me, been there and done that.

[edgarchavez]

H&R called it a "hook slide", but I can't find a schematic of your specific gun. H&R, IJ, and S&W, all used something similar.
To give you an idea what it looks like, here's a Model 999 schematic:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/HarringtonRichardson-33274/Revolvers-36449/999-38120.htm?results=All

And a S&W New Departure schematic that shows how the part and spring fit:

http://stevespages.com/ipb-sandw-newdeparture.html

Keep in mind, all these top break manufactures, might have several different part variations for the same model. Makes it a real PITA trying to find the right missing parts!
FYI, "call" Numrich and ask for a tech before ordering so he will know the exact model and parts you need. Trust me, been there and done that.

Sorey fir the late reply. I already have the hook slide, take a look at my picture again. But I likely need the spring you said. Ill try to give numrich a call. Thanks!

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