.22 at 100 yards

[larkja]

Picked up a Savage Mark II G for plinking a while back, and just had a chance to test her out. 50 yards was great so I thought I would give her a whirl at 100.

I could literally see the bullets arcing into the target and couldn't group for &%$*. I was on paper, but the wind blew the bullet around and my groupings were probably 3" or better, where at 50 yards, I was sub-MOA.

I see YouTube videos and read stories of people hunting beyond 50 yards with .22LR. I don't see how this is humane. 50 yards was dead-on, but with the arc that I literally saw, I can't see how anybody could be really accurate and there would be enough energy to make a clean kill when hunting.

Just my observation. Would love to hear others.

[sofbak]

^^^ Sub-sonic or high velocity ammo?

Brand/name of ammo?

[dominic]

yeah seeing the bullet arc sounds like subsonics. what ammo? you should be able to get 22lr out to 300 with the right ammo.

[larkja]

Pic

Here's what I was using.

[larkja]

States 1,250 fps - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/828...10-boxes-of-50

[mikeovers]

Back home in Southern Idaho I use to shoot ground squirrels out to 100+ yards with a 22lr. The ranges were verified by range finders some shots were out to 140yrds. However the following conditions are paramount to consistant shooting at 100yrds with a 22lr.
1. A top quality rifle with a long barrel. Longer barrels help with velocity and accuracy. Mine is a ruger 77vbz.
2. Good glass. You need to be prepared to pay for good glass. Dont use variable scopes for some reason the 22lr does not do well with variable power adjustments at long range. 4x is about as perfect as you can get. I have a zeiss 4x on my rifle.
3. Environmental conditions have to be perfect. If the wind picks up a little dont go long range shooting. Keep your shots closer to the 50 yard mark. You have to have alot of patience to wait for perfectly still day.
4. Use high velocity high quality ammo. I would shoot federal gold cup ammo, or cci high velocity. The former being my favorite. I know these days with the price and scarcity of 22lr ammo this is eaiser said then done.
5. Pratice pratice pratice cant stress this one enough. Follow this and you will know what your rifle has a tendency to do at long range.
Try these steps and you will be out ringing steel or hitting squirrels at 100+ yrds

[drmjf]

I shoot my Savage MKII at 100 yds. Federal Gold Match 1080 fps. I group just over 1 MOA.

[larkja]

I need more than a 4x. My eyes just aren't that good anymore. I was using a Weaver Kaspa - http://www.opticsplanet.com/weaver-k...fle-scope.html

A little overkill, but I took it off another rifle. I like it because I can see the holes at 100 yards. I'll just keep her at 50 yards for now - definitely a shooter. If I can find some good ammo, I might give 100 yards a whirl again.

Thanks

[larkja]

I'll try some different ammo next time.

[larkja]

50 yards

This was 50 rounds at 50 yards. I know it's accurate.

[Rosebud22]

For a 100yds need to use sub-sonic ammo for good groups. Have had good luck with CCI Std vel and Norma. Also keep in mind that a 22lr (sub sonic) will drift about 1/2" for every 1MPH of cross wind. So try to pick a calm wind day.
Sub-sonic is below 1125 fps.
Best of luck

[joe47]

Back home in Southern Idaho I use to shoot ground squirrels out to 100+ yards with a 22lr. The ranges were verified by range finders some shots were out to 140yrds. However the following conditions are paramount to consistant shooting at 100yrds with a 22lr.
1. A top quality rifle with a long barrel. Longer barrels help with velocity and accuracy. Mine is a ruger 77vbz.
2. Good glass. You need to be prepared to pay for good glass. Dont use variable scopes for some reason the 22lr does not do well with variable power adjustments at long range. 4x is about as perfect as you can get. I have a zeiss 4x on my rifle.
3. Environmental conditions have to be perfect. If the wind picks up a little dont go long range shooting. Keep your shots closer to the 50 yard mark. You have to have alot of patience to wait for perfectly still day.
4. Use high velocity high quality ammo. I would shoot federal gold cup ammo, or cci high velocity. The former being my favorite. I know these days with the price and scarcity of 22lr ammo this is eaiser said then done.
5. Pratice pratice pratice cant stress this one enough. Follow this and you will know what your rifle has a tendency to do at long range.
Try these steps and you will be out ringing steel or hitting squirrels at 100+ yrds

If I recall correctly, all the powder is burned up after 18-20 inches. The only way a longer barrel will help with accuracy is if iron sights are used. Makes no difference with a scope.

[RandyD]

Shooting small game and small pests with a .22 LR is one of my favorite past times. A good rifleman with a .22 LR is almost 100% certain to make a hit at 50 yards. Depending on the size of the game you can stretch the effectiveness of a .22 LR out just past 100 yards but your probability of a hit diminishes as the distance increases.

A rabbit, squirrel, prarie dog, ground squirrel or similar sized animal that is hit with a .22 LR within 100 yards is going to put the animal down, so I don't worry about taking longer shots, that may result in a miss or a less than optimal hit.

[joe47]

I need more than a 4x. My eyes just aren't that good anymore. I was using a Weaver Kaspa - http://www.opticsplanet.com/weaver-k...fle-scope.html

A little overkill, but I took it off another rifle. I like it because I can see the holes at 100 yards. I'll just keep her at 50 yards for now - definitely a shooter. If I can find some good ammo, I might give 100 yards a whirl again.

Thanks

A 4-12 power scope is not really over kill. If shooting targets, the more power the better. I use a 8-32 shooting targets at 50 yds

[sofbak]

Rosebud22 identified your solution. Problem is high velocity projectile going trans- sonic before 100 yds.