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  • Sikvenum93
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 2181

    semi auto vs. bolt action .22?

    I'm torn. I want the semi auto for the defensive capability and rapid firing but from what I've read, semi auto rifles are quite picky with ammo and that is a huge issue ATM. I love bolt actions but I'm left handed and if iget a bolt gun it can only be used for varminting and plinking. Which should I get?

    While we're at it, can anyone recommend some models of .22 for me? My budget is around $200.
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  • #2
    Chaos47
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 6615

    First up no one is going to tell you any .22 is good for "defensive capability" unless its the only thing you have.

    Second semi autos like the Marlin 60 / 795 and the Ruger 10/22 will function fine with most ammo. Sure they will have their favorites to get the best performance and accuracy. But that doesn't mean that they won't function.

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    • #3
      kygen
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 3259

      If you need to take up a defensive position against a hoard of roaches, a 22 will work. Other than that, you are gonna need something bigger.
      Originally posted by thrillhouse700
      I have to wait until all the info is in before I make a statement. Obviously the family dogs had it coming.... other than that, waiting on more info.

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      • #4
        North Bay Guy
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 1230

        I currently own two semi-auto .22lr rifles. One is a Ruger 10/22 that's around 25 years old and the other is Marlin 795. Both are an excellent choice. Neither of mine are picky with ammo. I've been shooting bulk ammo through both for years. When I have a jam I'm confident it was caused by the ammo not the guns. You can always run higher quality ammo like CCI Mini Mags or something with a similar velocity. Jams are much less frequent when you use good ammo. I've been thinking about getting a bolt action .22lr to teach my youngest kids to shoot though.
        Last edited by North Bay Guy; 02-19-2015, 1:29 AM.

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        • #5
          FiremanBob
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 77

          A few thoughts to help sharpen your decision factors:

          1. As others already said, .22LR is not a good defensive round. But it's better than nothing, if nothing is your only alternative. If you are stuck using a .22 as a possible defender, you definitely want semi-auto as you'll need as many hits as possible in very little time. But it's a poor compromise - no one firearm can do everything well.

          2. A budget of $200 will get you a used Ruger 10/22, possibly a new Marlin 795 (although I think the pre-2008 used ones are better quality), a used Remington 597, or a Mossberg. Of these, I would pick either the Ruger or the Marlin, with a preference for the Ruger because it's easier to clean and maintain. These should be totally reliable (and are easily made so if they aren't).

          3. Left-handed bolt actions are available from CZ and they are very high quality. But a used one will cost at least twice your budget.

          In summary, you should have no worries about reliability with a good-quality Ruger or Marlin shooting good quality ammo (not Remington or Armscor). A bolt-action will have a slight edge in accuracy but it sounds like for your purposes the difference won't matter.
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          • #6
            19hugeracks57
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 273

            my freind is a southpaw and didn't have a peoblem finding bolt action gun on GUN GEINE ...AS FOR THE 22 LOOK ON GUN GEINE AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE OR YOUR CLOSES BIG 5 OR WALMART STORE

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            • #7
              Chaos47
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 6615

              Originally posted by 19hugeracks57
              my freind is a southpaw and didn't have a peoblem finding bolt action gun on GUN GEINE ...AS FOR THE 22 LOOK ON GUN GEINE AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE OR YOUR CLOSES BIG 5 OR WALMART STORE
              what is wrong... WITH YOUR CAPS LOCK! (not to mention your spelling..)

              First there are few modern 22LR bolt rifle offered in left hand. Off the top of my head theres the Savage MKII GL Left ~50 buck more than OP's budget and CZ offerings which are over double their budget.
              Second your options at Big 5 are going to be pretty much limited to the Mossberg Plinkster, Savage 64f, Ruger 10/22, Marlin 60 / 795....
              Third Walmart doesn't sell firearms in CA....

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              • #8
                Mwfillmore
                Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 258

                Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you haven't had the opportunity to shoot much (referencing the defensive comment). Start with a .22 semi, hard to go wrong with the above mentioned Ruger 10/22 or the Marlin. If you enjoy shooting you will buy more. If you end up liking longer range shooting then get a bolt gun in a larger caliber like a .308. If you end wanting to shoot fast (tactically) build an AR.
                This is a total guess but I'm sure most people's first shooting experience was with a .22. I know mine was, so a ruger 10/22 was the first gun I bought at 9 years old, it will also be the first gun I hand down to my son.

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                • #9
                  wpod
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 2395

                  My 1st (still have it 45 years later) was a bolt .22
                  It teaches you to accurately determine your 1st shot.
                  I know my brother ran out of ammo before me when we went plinking and he used his 10/22.

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                  • #10
                    uxo2
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4003

                    IF a 22 is all you have for defense.

                    I'm not going to turn you off of the .22lr as a defensive
                    tool.
                    Better than nothing.

                    And I bet there is no one on the board that will step up and say
                    they would rather get shot by a ""22"" than hit by a bat.

                    You want a semi auto. IMHO-10/22-
                    For ammo. Ultra High Velocity "stinger" or HV ammo.

                    Quality magazines.
                    Practice with it.
                    Make sure it works.
                    Malfunction drills. It is a rimfire. Not as reliable for ignition as a center fire.

                    You can by a reliability kit.


                    You don't need a fancy trigger.


                    Shoot for face, Throat or plain center mass.
                    If they are wearing body armor. They are going to get pissed.
                    Keep shooting till target is down

                    Light recoil..Fast trigger. Lot of lead in the air.
                    You should be able to triple tap.

                    But it is still a rim fire.
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                    Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
                    One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
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                    • #11
                      Gem1950
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2876

                      Get Both

                      Ruger 10/22 (semi-auto)

                      Ruger American 22lr (bolt action)

                      Both use the same magazine
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                      • #12
                        Chaos47
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 6615

                        Originally posted by Gem1950
                        Ruger 10/22 (semi-auto)

                        Ruger American 22lr (bolt action)

                        Both use the same magazine
                        Marlin 795 (semi-auto)

                        Marlin XT-22 (bolt action)

                        Both use the same magazine


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                        • #13
                          kayaker
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1011

                          As has been said here a few times, most .22 semi auto rifles are pretty reliable. Use quality ammo and the chances of a jam or miss-fire is very low. A .22 isn't a good HD weapon but much better than a sharp stick.

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                          • #14
                            CSACANNONEER
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44093

                            Well, how about a pump or lever action if you want a repeater?

                            I suggest looking at the used racks and don't focus on just one type of action. Look for a great deal and jump on it. Sometimes you can find a great deal on an old .22lr. Whatever you do, do not discount Mossberg .22s. I have a couple that will hold their own against high end .22s that cost as much as 10 times more.
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                            • #15
                              Sikvenum93
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 2181

                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              Well, how about a pump or lever action if you want a repeater?

                              I suggest looking at the used racks and don't focus on just one type of action. Look for a great deal and jump on it. Sometimes you can find a great deal on an old .22lr. Whatever you do, do not discount Mossberg .22s. I have a couple that will hold their own against high end .22s that cost as much as 10 times more.
                              I discounted those because all the ones I've seen seem to be well in excess of $200. But I'll take your word for it and I'll keep a look out for em.
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