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  • Colonel Monk
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 366

    Nightforce 12-42x56 need advice

    Howdy

    OK, so I got this scope for a great deal. It came off a .50 BMG that had only been fired a handful of times.

    Personally, I probably wouldn't spend the kind of cheese that one of these costs new, and talked with a buddy about it and he said "well, if you wouldn't buy another one, then don't sell this one"

    Thing is, I think it's just too much scope for my needs. I have an FN FNAR and an Armalite AR-10 (which I'm wanting to sell) both chambered in 7.62 NATO.

    I thought about keeping it around just in case, or to use at the range as a spotting scope (on a tripod of course), but if it's not the right scope for my needs, maybe I should sell it and reinvest in some optics I can use. I really do not see myself ponying up the kind of dough it costs to shoot big guns (338, 416, BMG) at extreme ranges.

    The FNAR I will likely also use for deer hunting, but I also want to learn how to test the range of that rifle, 600 yd+? So, defense and hunting, with target shooting 3rd, will be primary uses.

    I have a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 BDC that came with the FN - I haven't even shot it at the range yet. Guy I bought it from told me that he could hit targets at army base range with "good grouping" to 550 yds with little problem

    SO

    Am I right that the Nightforce is really too powerful for the ranges I'll be shooting with 7.62 NATO?

    Is it useful at all as a spotting/recon scope?

    Is this Nikon any good? What is the maximum visual range for 9X?

    What is a used Nightforce like this worth?

    Thanks. I'm not new to guns, but I'm just settling in after a cross-country move, haven't found a long distance range yet (the one I found is only 200yd) and just don't have any current experience with high magnification optics or the ballistics of the 7.62 NATO.

    Thanks
    CM
  • #2
    Jeff213
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 706

    You can shoot 1000 yards with iron sights. I personally think that 12-42 is too powerful for anything but competition. I would sell it if it were me, but some people will disagree with me.

    2-7 or 3-9 scopes are great out to 500 yards and beyond as long as you are not trying to hit squirrels. If you can see it, you can shoot it.

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    • #3
      Forewarned
      Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 235

      Why don't you try it first to see if you like it. Then make your decision.

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      • #4
        JMP
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        • Feb 2012
        • 17056

        It's really for competition target shooting. The magnification is too high for tactical/practical situations. I'd definitely want a scope that goes much lower than 12x on a .308.

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        • #5
          Click Boom
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2013
          • 6955

          Originally posted by Forewarned
          Why don't you try it first to see if you like it. Then make your decision.
          Yeah, might as well see what 42x looks like haha.

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          • #6
            Colonel Monk
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 366

            I looked up a few on ebay just to gauge used market, there are several like mine that have sold from $1100 or more.

            Yeah, the 12X is over the top, let alone the 42X. Probably I'd have sold it sooner if I had looked into this.

            I've seen a rough rule of thumb of 1X for each 100 yards... I think there are some caveats involved with that rule - it's cool to have more than you need, but I can barely look thru this scope on 12x braced against a tree - movement is way magnified, and not much field of view.

            Pretty expensive spotting scope for the range too.

            So, does anyone have some good recommendations for:

            Scope for FNAR 308
            Scopes for AR in 556
            Spotting scopes

            If I don't keep the Nikon 308 BDC that I have, I might include it with my AR10 to sweeten the deal. I got it in a trade deal. But, if it's a good scope maybe I'll keep it for FNAR.

            Thanks
            CM

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            • #7
              JMP
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              • Feb 2012
              • 17056

              For ARs, I personally like the 1-6x and 1-8x scopes. You get good magnification, and it still keeps the rifle light weight and usable at all the real effective ranges, including up close with the 1x.

              I am sure that the PA 4-14 ACSS or PA 1-6 ACSS will come at the highest recommendation by posters here, so I'll just mention them in advance.

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              • #8
                texterter
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 531

                S&B 1-4x24

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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
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                  Shoot me the specifics on your scope. I might be interested in trading a 5.5-22x NXS or an 8-32x NXS for it or even buying it outright. Is it a BR or NXS? MOA/MOA? Mil/Mil? Reticle?
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                  • #10
                    NoHeavyHitter
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                    • Jul 2011
                    • 2876

                    I have the 5.5-22x56 NXS on my .308 precision rifle and it's more than enough. With that much magnification, you're going to have a lousy (very tight) field of view and lots of mirage to contend with.

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                    • #11
                      Gunsrruss
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 1488

                      5.5 X 22 X 56 Trade

                      Take this, your present scope is to powerful for your needs. You will be so unhappy with it. I have the 5.5X22X56 on my Remington 700 and M1A and it's the best
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                      And I won't be laid a hand on.
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                      • #12
                        FourT6and2
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1928

                        Originally posted by Jeff213
                        You can shoot 1000 yards with iron sights.
                        Can you see 3,000 feet? I don't think I can. That's 10 football fields...

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                        • #13
                          CSACANNONEER
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                          Originally posted by FourT6and2
                          Can you see 3,000 feet? I don't think I can. That's 10 football fields...
                          You would be surprised.
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                            FourT6and2
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                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1928

                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            You would be surprised.
                            With the naked eye? No spotting scope? We talking a normal rifle target with like a 4" bullseye? Or like a giant metal gong? He'll I don't think I could see a normal dinner plate at 3000 feet let alone a bullseye. I see this 1000 yard claim with irons and the naked eye a lot. But I find it hard to swallow. I've seen some videos where people do it. But they have their rifles set up prior to rolling the camera and a spotting scope. To me that's no different than using a scope.

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                            • #15
                              CSACANNONEER
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                              Originally posted by FourT6and2
                              With the naked eye? No spotting scope? We talking a normal rifle target with like a 4" bullseye? Or like a giant metal gong? He'll I don't think I could see a normal dinner plate at 3000 feet let alone a bullseye. I see this 1000 yard claim with irons and the naked eye a lot. But I find it hard to swallow. I've seen some videos where people do it. But they have their rifles set up prior to rolling the camera and a spotting scope. To me that's no different than using a scope.
                              If you use a peep sight, things tend to clear up a lot. Typical 1000 yard targets are 6 feet by 6 feet with either a 24" or 36" "black". Top shooter can keep all their shots in the nine and ten ring with irons. If you just can't conceive of this, go to a match sometime and see for yourself.
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