TA11 ACOG and offset T1 vs. VCOG

[acogshooter223]

I am trying to come up with the pros and cons of each. Please let me know if I am missing anything:

TA11J-G with offset T1 on Larue mount (Advantages)

1. Transition between magnified and unmagnified faster and easier.
2. Battery life of T1 longer
3. T1 has more forgiving eyebox
4. Impossible to leave on wrong magnification.
5. Proven in the field.
6. Built in back up (two sights)

VCOG (Advantages)

1. More magnification range.
2. More compact
3. On 1X, more natural to shoot than offset T1.


Where I figure they are equal or just about equal:

1. Durability
2. Weight
3. Cost
4. Daylight brightness
5. Glass quality (ACOG vs. VCOG)
6. Both true 1X

Am I missing any other considerations?

[SuperSet]

They cost the same? VCOG is $2300.

[acogshooter223]

The T1 with Larue offset is $685. The ACOG is $1400 with the mount. VCOGs have been on sale for as low as $1500ish in the early stages of promotion.

I figure the final street price will be actually a little lower than $2000.

For my purposes, this is the same price.

[acogshooter223]

My interest is from a SHTF / fighting gun scenario. Here are some additional thoughts...

At the last 3 gun I attended, everyone seemed to have 1-4x or 1-6x scopes. They worked fine. BUT, everyone knew where the targets would be in advance. So, they could just dial up the magnification after they shot their close targets. The 1-X scopes worked just fine.

In a SHTF scenario, you never know where your bad guy will be coming from. So, if I had a 1-X scope, it would be at 1X all the time because up close threats are more dangerous and dynamic than far away threats. I see two big problems with this approach:

1. If I wanted to take a quick look with a potential threat at a distance, I would have to dial it up and dial it down. That would get old real fast if I was doing it alot. A big, big plus of magnification on a fighting rifle is that it can give you threat identification. You can see things at a distance or in the shadows that you can't see with your naked eyes. Constant fiddling with your scopes magnification would seem to have the effect of making it less likely for a person to use his magnification.

2. During an engagement taking actual fire, I don't honestly see myself fiddling with the magnification. It would be more of a situation where I run the gun on what it is on when the fighting starts. If that is the case, you loose the benefit of the versatility of the variable scope.

Both of the above factors, to me, make the 1-X scopes much less versatile than a ACOG/T1 setup. You just roll the gun to get the view you need instantly.

[teflondog]

For SHTF, I would go with and ACOG + T1. If the ACOG somehow gets shattered, just roll your rifle a little to the side and you have a red dot sight.

If the VCOG gets shattered, you'd have to remove the optic and flip up your irons, which takes longer. You can always get 45 degree irons but I find them slower to use than a RDS.

[emtothedee]

They cost the same? VCOG is $2300.

Acog/t1 combo is $2000 with mounts. So yes, they cost the same. $300 is a moot difference at those prices.

[emtothedee]

What is awesome about the acog/t1 combo, is that if you get bored of it, you can throw the bobro mount on the t1 again that it came with and rock both in a switcharoo type setup. That is what I have debated doing as a majority of my training hasn't involved the acog so far. I could just pop the t1 off and then throw that acog on if I start doing some mid range work. As for a do it all setup for shtf though, t1 offset for sure. if one breaks, boom setup the other one. Also, if an EMP hits, you're still good to go with that a cog