Such thing as a FFP BDC Scope?

[freedom-lover]

Is there a first focal plane BDC scope manufactured?

[JackRydden224]

I believe Bushnell's Elite Tactical 1-6.5x fits your needs. They have a SFP and a FFP. Both reticles has drops marked up to 600 yards I believe. I'm sure someone who owns the scope can confirm things for you.

[ExtremeX]

Yes.... Bushnell PCL is just one example...

http://www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/ar-optics/1-4x-24mm-throw-down-pcl

...and the Trijicon VCOG is another...

http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product1.php?id=VCOG

[Whiterabbit]

do you count any reticle that has hash marks as a BDC scope? Vortex makes many models that combine FFP with MOA or Mil reticles. But they are not calibrated to a particular load (which is a GOOD thing in my book!), just regular hashmarks. So when you see your hit two hash marks low and two to the right, you know to adjust 2 moa on each dial.

[ExtremeX]

do you count any reticle that has hash marks as a BDC scope? Vortex makes many models that combine FFP with MOA or Mil reticles. But they are not calibrated to a particular load (which is a GOOD thing in my book!), just regular hashmarks. So when you see your hit two hash marks low and two to the right, you know to adjust 2 moa on each dial.

I don't consider them BDC reticles, but I agree with you 100%. I prefer reticles graduated in standard angular units of measurement like MOA or MIL vs something calibrated to a specific load.

[Whiterabbit]

seems just prudent. So when you get stuck with a ridiculous law that says you cant coyote hunt with your AMAX or banded solid bullets anymore, you switch to solid copper. And your scope still works, cause it's not calibrated to the load, but to what is basically a ruler.

or you got a BDC that is calibrated only to your special load (or some military load you can't always use or will be hard to find eventually anyways) and now a scope that simply doesn't work anymore.

Or so it always seemed to me...

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How many guns do I see at the range with a 3x5 card taped to the stock that has the drops listed at various ranges? not uncommon....

[freedom-lover]

I was looking for something like a 3-9x40 or 4-12x40 and was deciding between the buckmaster and nikon prostaff-5 that have BDC reticles (vs duplex). I thought the BDC would be fun to try out, but they are set to work at a given maginification (max, i think). That got me to thinking that FFP scopes would solve that.

[ExtremeX]

I was looking for something like a 3-9x40 or 4-12x40 and was deciding between the buckmaster and nikon prostaff-5 that have BDC reticles (vs duplex). I thought the BDC would be fun to try out, but they are set to work at a given maginification (max, i think). That got me to thinking that FFP scopes would solve that.

You are correct in saying anything SFP which has subtensions in MOA or MILS or a calibrated BDC would only be accurate at one magnification... generally max. This is where FFP scopes become a solution.

FFP Scopes would solve that issue, but you still have to deal with calibration variances between the loading and firearm. You really need to establish an application for purchase before blindly jumping into any scope purchase and put some thought into how you intend to use it and the goal you want to accomplish…

BDC reticles can be great until they don't work or calibration goes wonky due to internal and external ballistics... Depending on the cartridge, loading, firearm, and distance you want to shoot at, they may or may not be the best solution.

I have owned BDC scopes were BDC values matched good enough like in my ACOG + Carbine + M855 vs a basic hunting scope which has BDC holds graduated in some generic increments to suit a wide assortment of popular loadings and calibers. Relying on a BDC like that is more of a “SWAG” BDC… Scientific Wild A$s Guess.

[Whiterabbit]

check out Vortex Viper PST, OP. you can get away with SFP. There are detents on the dial so when the magnification adjust stops, you are at a multiple. So at max mag, one hash mark is one MOA on the dial. At the first detent, one hash is two MOA on the dial. At the third detent, 4 MOA. etc.

Best of both worlds.

Though I will be perfectly honest with you. Everything I ever do is at minimum (hunting) magnification, or maximum (target) magnification. At min I am always at max point blank range, at max I have plenty of time to set up, dial in, etc.

Just the way I shoot....