Bushnell and Primary Arms Optics Identical?

[Glocker23]

They looks extremely similar so I was wondering if they were the same.

[postal]

Not even close...

Seriously?????????????????????????????

[postal]

NC star makes this thing that looks like an ACOG......

It looks like an ACOG so it's as good as an ACOG right?

Save about $350 with the NC Star... How can you go wrong?

Bushnell is making really high quality products with features and price points that make them a real bargain for what you get.

There are better, but they cost over double what the bushnells cost. Vortex makes some direct competitors for bushnell at similar price points as well.

[Losd619]

They looks extremely similar so I was wondering if they were the same.

this is what you want, imo ****s all over the TRS25

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-Micro-Dot-With-Removable-Base-AD-p/md06adt1-10bundle.htm

[postal]

I guess maybe if the op was looking at cheap red dots.... maybe....

As to scopes, I've never seen a review of anyone I trust going over a primary arms.

However I do have this report from a 3rd party who tests scopes... and here is a review of a bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR....

Note the image doesnt show the full report, but it clearly ends with "this is one of the best scopes I've....." Also note the "smiley face that each click value is supposed to be 1/10 actually measures .101.... Obviously the tester was impressed with this scope.....


So.... Anyone that thinks bushnell and primary are the same quality.... I'd say let Dimitri have one of his scopes evaluated by the same company and lets compare..... Otherwise, I think bushnell is top notch at a very attractive price. Note this test was a 3.5-21 G2DMR which retails about $1,300... if you want something better, get ready to spend at least twice as much... And even still.. it might not test as good......

So... Dimitri.... care to send in one of your 'tactical scopes' for eval and post the report? I'm very curious about them... as I only hear reviews of novices.... no one I know or trust has played with one- this would be a good test for quality that would convince me of your products.

Full article here-http://www.caprc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4666

[Kestryll]

Do you mean these two:
Primary Arms Micro Dot
and
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25

The rumor is that they are made at the same factory with minor differences.
I've seen this discussed several times in the past year on multiple forums and I believe even confirmed once.

It's like the Primary Arms 1-4x24 scope and the Millet 1-4x24 DMS, same scope, different reticules and branding.

[Glocker23]

To be more specific:

How does a Bushnell TR-25 compare vs Primary Arms?

Postal LOVES Bushell.. I think??

[Glocker23]

Thanks Kestryll.

I have one of each. The Primary Arms and the Bushnell and they seemed identical to me. Otherwise, we'd have some copyright infringement issues unless the design was licensed to both?

[postal]

I love my bushnell G2DMR....

I also love my Vortex Razor Red dot....

I'm 'happy' with my nikon buckmasters....

And fairly pleased with my nikon monarch VSD red dots...

Thing is OP never stated what product he was interested in.....

I'll take nikon/vortex/bushnell over ANY pa whatever at whatever price point... They are all proven brands with quality products. The only people that rave about PA is Dimitri the salesman, and optics newbies or people on a budget- Which... even on a budget there are proven brands above pa.

The whole point is giving people as much information as possible and let them make their own decision. with ALL the information.

As to red dots... I only have/had tasco accudot (had); nikon monarch VSD (2) and vortex razor red dot (1) Those cover cheap, midline, and highline... I strongly recommend the nikon and vortex- the tasco or anything in that price point... not so much... though that trashco did work just fine for about 10 years....

[Glocker23]

Thanks Postal. I should have been clear on the product as I am just working with Holographic and Red Dot sights.

Who do you think makes the best bang for the buck scopes?

[LBDamned]

Thanks Postal. I should have been clear on the product as I am just working with Holographic and Red Dot sights.

Who do you think makes the best bang for the buck scopes?

not to speak for Postal, but Weaver Tactical are extremely good bang for buck... Bushnell Elite line are very good as well... One of the most recent scopes I've acquired, Bushnell PCL Throw Down (from their AR Optics line) is hard to beat at it's price point.

Weaver Tactical 3-15x50 EMDR is the most overlooked scope imo: http://swfa.com/Weaver-3-15x50-Tacti...pe-P49448.aspx made at the LOW factory in Japan - very good glass, outstanding features, super robust... probably my favorite scope... under $800 it's one of the top bang for buck!

[postal]

Depends on what the intended use is.

What type/cartridge rifle it's going on, maximum distance you plan to shoot... Hunting, paper, competition.. (if comp- what comp)

Too many questions to settle on a specific recommendation.

However, decent products at price points....

Weaver, Nikon, swfa super sniper, zeiss(conquest), vortex, bushnell all make good products. Then you go up to March, nightforce, schmidt and bender/premier, and US Optics

[Glocker23]

Most shooting will be at 100 yards with an AR15 shooting 5.56 and .22LR.

[dyson]

I have both the PA and the TRS25 micros and I'm pretty sure they are the same besides the removable base.

Both will get you to 100 yds. Beyond that gets tough to see for me.

[TacticalPlinker]

To be more specific:

How does a Bushnell TR-25 compare vs Primary Arms?

Postal LOVES Bushell.. I think??

Agreed. I'd like to know how they compare.

Does the Primary Arms have that annoying little piece inside towards the bottom corner? It distracts me from the red dot, when I looked at the Bushnell TRS-25.

I'm interested in the new Primary Arms MD-06L;

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-Micro-Dot-with-Removable-Base-p/md-06l.htm

I'd like to pick up an optic for my AR, but I simply cannot afford an Aimpoint or Eotech (or something similar), so until I can, I'd like to purchase something quality for a well built AR, but still more or less inexpensive (~$200 w/mount).