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  • pakk
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 187

    ar specific scopes

    What is different about these ar specific scopes?

    What are the advantages to an AR specific scope? Disadvantage?
    Last edited by pakk; 08-15-2013, 8:49 AM.
    Don't panic bro.
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    PrimaryArms
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Jun 2011
    • 2676

    You can mount any scope on an AR but most like something small compact or made to have back iron sights underneath it. Others mount on charging handles. What you see below will retail for $250. A lot of guys are asking about it.

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    The number one reason shots are missed is wrong ranging then wind

    The ACSS is not just another reticle it deals with the reality of a shot.

    In CQB mode the large horseshoe allows you to be on target fast and if the target is moving have the proper lead.

    In medium range ranging your target is as easy as placing it in the right bracket in live situations there is no time to mil and use a calculator to determine range and then turn knobs with ACSS all the math and knob turning has been done.
    The process is simple range, hold for wind and engage. In testing it has proven far more effective then other $2000 dollar optics. Shooting at a stationary target is one thing and live situations is a whole other. The reality is multiple targets at unknown distances with limited exposure and moving!

    Dimitri Mikroulis
    Last edited by PrimaryArms; 08-17-2013, 7:42 AM.
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    • #3
      pakk
      Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 187

      I'm not looking for anything small and compact and I don't need to back up iron sights. I won't be doing any special mounting.

      Aside from that, is anything special needed for an AR scope?

      I ask because there are company's that are advertising AR specific scopes. They look to be very traditional scopes.
      Don't panic bro.

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      • #4
        FMJBT
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 4888

        AR specific scopes typically will have either BDC (Bullet Drop Compensating) reticles or adjustment turrets calibrated for the trajectory of a 55 to 62 grain bullet going around 3000 to 3100 feet per second. This allows the shooter to rapidly get on target at extended ranges. BDC systems will not take into account variables like temperature or altitude (air density) which can cause significant changes in trajectory at extended ranges. Due to this, the BDC may not give you 100% hit capability at all ranges, but it will definitely get you close enough that you'll be able to spot it and quickly correct for a follow up shot.
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        • #5
          PrimaryArms
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Jun 2011
          • 2676

          What scope are you referring to as AR specific?

          Dimitri
          www.primaryarms.com

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          • #6
            pakk
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 187

            leupold mark ar 6-18x40
            nikkon m223 4-16x42
            Don't panic bro.

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              PrimaryArms
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Jun 2011
              • 2676

              Originally posted by pakk
              leupold mark ar 6-18x40
              nikkon m223 4-16x42
              Do you have a longer barreled AR? Do you handload?
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              • #8
                pakk
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 187

                Originally posted by PrimaryArms
                Do you have a longer barreled AR? Do you handload?
                yes
                Don't panic bro.

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                • #9
                  CSTactical
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4092

                  There some scopes out there that are setup for 556/223 but can be used for any caliber such the Leupold MARK AR MOD scopes. Their turrets are in 1/10 MRAD have BDC markings for 556/223 55gr. The turrets also have markings for every 0.5 MRAD allowing the user to use it for any caliber.

                  There are scopes out there that are setup for 556/223 only such and Trijicon ACOG.

                  Here is a link to Leupold Mark AR MOD scopes.



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                  • #10
                    pakk
                    Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 187

                    Based on your replies, the only difference with these ar specific scopes is the reticle and how it calculates bullet drop at given yards. I see 55gn and 62gn mentioned. I won't be shooting that weight bullet. As of right now, I am shooting a 69gn bullet.

                    For the time being, I am only shooting targets at 100 yards. I have no immediate plans to shoot further. So it would seem that these ar specific scopes have no advantage. So I guess I can use any scope?

                    So now comes the dead horse beating....

                    I still need a scope. I will be shooting my ar at 100 yards. I don't need crazy top of the line glass. If I can see the bulls eye and the scope holds zero, I'll be happy. I just don't want the scope to be a variable when it comes to getting good groups.
                    Don't panic bro.

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                    • #11
                      PrimaryArms
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 2676

                      Originally posted by pakk
                      Based on your replies, the only difference with these ar specific scopes is the reticle and how it calculates bullet drop at given yards. I see 55gn and 62gn mentioned. I won't be shooting that weight bullet. As of right now, I am shooting a 69gn bullet.

                      For the time being, I am only shooting targets at 100 yards. I have no immediate plans to shoot further. So it would seem that these ar specific scopes have no advantage. So I guess I can use any scope?

                      So now comes the dead horse beating....

                      I still need a scope. I will be shooting my ar at 100 yards. I don't need crazy top of the line glass. If I can see the bulls eye and the scope holds zero, I'll be happy. I just don't want the scope to be a variable when it comes to getting good groups.
                      I shoot 69smk 77smk 60vmax and other loads using the reticle.



                      Here is the recommended fps and 0
                      Do you know how to mil or range a target?

                      Dimitri
                      www.primaryarms.com

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                      • #12
                        BrassCase
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3192

                        Originally posted by pakk
                        leupold mark ar 6-18x40
                        nikkon m223 4-16x42
                        I have that Leupold on my AR. No complaints. I have a Larue QD mount for it as I take it off so the AR can fit in my safe. I put it on 18 @ 100 yds. and then I don't need to look through a spotting scope. I bought mine with rebate from Cabelas through the net. They do not have CA stores so when I bought mine last year I didn't pay tax.
                        I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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