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  • JohnP
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 491

    TruGlo Red dot for $50 or Bushnell TRS25 for $90

    Guys, help me decide. Is 3 MOA vs 5 MOA worth almost double?

    I don't know much about either of these other than what's out on the web, but they both seem decent. The TruGlo has a lifetime warranty which is nice for a low end scope since i'm sure i'll have a problem some day.

    I'm mainly an OC indoor range shooter. 5 MOA? is this decent?

    it'll be going on an AK, so accuracy isn't of supreme importance, but i'm imagining myself trying to look through a 5moa and seeing nothing but a giant red dot.

    Your opinions are welcomed

    Bushnell

    or

    Truglo
    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
  • #2
    Manpants
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Nov 2011
    • 1281

    TRS-25 for sure. I have one and works great for the price. I am sure plenty of people use truglo but I wouldn't use it on anything other than a 22. The TRS is inexpensive and reliable.

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    • #3
      JohnP
      Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 491

      MP: do you suppose the TRS25 is worth almost double? That's the question i'm asking. I have never convinced myself to buy once cry once. Just can't stomach paying 400 bucks for an optic. 50....90....all those are reasonable. Just trying to decide if that Bushnell is that much better.
      Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin

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      • #4
        Whiterabbit
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 7585

        the dot size doesn't matter at all. You admit you are shooting paper targets. You tailor your target for the dot if need be. The human eye is REALLY good at aligning circles. Easily possible to shoot FAR smaller groups than the dot size when you use the right target.

        For red dots, I prefer a target with a black round center slightly larger than the dot is, whatever the size and range. This yields me the best groups.

        so, 1 moa, 3 moa, 5 moa, 10 moa, it's all good for target shooting, indoors or out, 5 yards or 100 yards. Plenty of folks here claim they can hold at 200-300 yards just fine with a red dot too.

        Anyways, the tru-glo is not what you want. The on/off knob will loosen under recoil, and it'll happen pretty quick.

        You can buy cheap (no need for a $1500 red dot), but I suggest prioritizing sturdiness above all else (including dot size). You'll be better off with the Bushnell.

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        If you only trust opinions from people who talk about personal experience (the "trust me, I know" argument), then I could tell you I owned a matchdot that allowed me to change the dot size from 2moa to 8moa in 2moa increments. 8 moa was not too large, and it was ideal for indoor range shooting or 25 yard shooting. 2moa was rarely used as it was difficult to find the dot in a pistol and washed out frequently at 100 yards in bright daylight. I did most of my shooting (50 and 100 yards) using the 4 moa dot.

        Good luck. If 5moa worries you THAT much, I suggest you look at a vortex or ultradot option @ $120-150 price point for a smaller dot.
        Last edited by Whiterabbit; 06-13-2013, 11:13 AM.

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        • #5
          sm510husky
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 715

          ive run the truglo on everything from a 12ga to AR platform. it works,its just ugly. and no,it wont loosen under recoil,mine never did.

          i also have the bushnell. im rough on it and its still going strong. great budget optic

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          • #6
            Whiterabbit
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2010
            • 7585

            Odd. My buddy's didn't last long on a mossberg 500. I finished the job with a big bore revolver.

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            • #7
              autoduel
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1080

              What about Primary Arms? Don't you have one? Did it meet your expectations?
              I can see spending $$ on scopes, but dot sights, I can't justify $500 vs. $100.
              Last edited by autoduel; 06-13-2013, 1:18 PM.
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              • #8
                JohnP
                Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 491

                I like my PA's. Good stuff. That's in the TRS-25 price range. I suppose i'm splitting hairs. Difference in price between all these options is the cost of ammo for one range trip.
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                • #9
                  BruinGuy
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1456

                  I don't have a TruGlo but I did cheap out on my first rds... A Leaper's. Put it on my AK and first time at the range the covers flew apart. It won't hold zero between trips, either. The TruGlo looks almost identical...would not surprise me if they were made in the same factory. Leaper's warranty service was good but what's the point if it can't hold up?

                  I replaced it with a Vortex Strikefire and am quite content.
                  Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
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                  • #10
                    JohnP
                    Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 491

                    I am going the other way. I got a vortex sparc which I like and I'm going progressively cheaper

                    If this sub hundred optic sucks, the next one will be an aimpoint

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                    • #11
                      teflondog
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4011

                      If you're shooting at 100 yards and up, then I'd definitely choose a 3 MOA over 5 MOA dot. If shooting at 50 yards then either would be fine since the difference at closer distances is less noticeable.
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                      • #12
                        Manpants
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1281

                        Originally posted by JohnP
                        I am going the other way. I got a vortex sparc which I like and I'm going progressively cheaper

                        If this sub hundred optic sucks, the next one will be an aimpoint

                        Sent From My Phone
                        so you bought a Sparc? The sparc isn't sub 100.00. Maybe I am not understanding your post.

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                        • #13
                          JohnP
                          Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 491

                          Originally posted by Manpants
                          so you bought a Sparc? The sparc isn't sub 100.00. Maybe I am not understanding your post.
                          what i mean is, i started with the most expensive optic i own (sparc) and appear to be going progressively cheaper each new optic i get.

                          i hope this next one (under 100 bucks) is decent
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                          • #14
                            SJgunguy24
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2008
                            • 14849

                            I would go with the Bushnell. Personally I have a Bushy holosight that is bombproof. It's the same as an eo tech minus the awsome battery life. I don't have the type your looking at but I know 5 different guys who run those exact sights on their working guns. These guys work in Afgahanistan doing contract security and training work. They all run AK's of some type, ultimaks or tws rails and that very bushnell your asking about. They trust them.
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                            • #15
                              negolien
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 4829

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