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Would this be a good scope for an AR15 ?
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Would this be a good scope for an AR15 ?
Originally posted by WebologistI am in a sympathy-free zone as well. A leftist brown shirt reaping what he sowed after profiting from it is sweet justice indeed.Tags: None -
Not sure if this is a joke.
He's looking to buy a $1700 optic and you steer him to Primary Arms?
OP, if you're planning on doing precision shooting and willing to go past $1K mark... take a close look at the following
-SWFA SS 5-20x50mm HD
-Bushnell 3.5-21x50mm HDMR
-Used Vortex Razor 5-20x50mm
-Used Nightforce 3-15x50mm
If you're looking for something that will shoot close range as well as medium range AND pay around $1K or more
-SWFA SS 1-6X24mm HD
-Vortex Razor 1-6x24mm HD
-Nightforce 2.5-10x32mm
I do think Leupolds Mk4 line is pretty decent, but for the money, you can get better.
What is the intended purpose of your optic anyhow?Comment
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IMHO opinion you would be better suited with a 3.5-10x instead. 4.5x minimum mag is a bit much IME for an AR.
That is a very good quality scope BTWComment
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I second this... I'd go Nightforce 2.5-10x32mm... or wait and see what the new Nightforce 2.5-10x42mm is gonna cost. I'm eagerly awaiting that puppy.Comment
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Wasn't referring to your choice in magnification, was referring to your choice of a $150 toy when the OP was willing to spend $1700.
It's like telling the guy that walks in wanting to buy a Porsche, "Hey bub, just buy yourself a Ford Fiesta and save yourself some money." :P
See my reasoning here?Comment
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$1749.99 for a scope?
I'm sure it's a nice scope...I am just not sure about putting a nice scope like that on an AR15. What happens if you break it and need to replace it at a moment's notice?
I put scopes that were literally 1/10 of that price on combat guns and those scopes still managed to do just fine in the areas and conditions I used them. I mean...I wish I had $1800 to spend on just a scope! To each his own, I guess.
--1911ShooterPhil"A gun is a tool. No better and no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel, or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that." Shane (1953)Comment
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If you are going to be changing elevation between 200-1,000 yards then you need a quality scope where the turrets and gears will hold true between adjustments.
The Mark 4 is a great scope. For the money I would take a look at the Night Force optics.
I was not aware of NF until I dropped into the Angeles range when the 50 BMG club was shooting and NF was one of the more common scope.
If you looks at the used market you will see that the scopes do not drop much in price so if you do not like the optic you can get out for a minimal cost.
As always - I would suggest that you try to find a group that is doing shooting similar to what you want to build the rifle to accomplish. To to one of that groups shoots and talk to the folks about their gear selection.
When you are looking to spend 2k on optics, rings, bases, levels and such, finding folks that already have and can articulate why is a good starting point.Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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If you wouldn't put a "nice" scope like that on a gun what would you put it on? There is a reason you pay 1/10th of price for your scope. Also please do tell what type of "combat" those guns are seeing! OP I'm not a fan of Loopys but if you are going to get one make sure the Knobs match the reticle. Mil knobs/Mil reticle.$1749.99 for a scope?
I'm sure it's a nice scope...I am just not sure about putting a nice scope like that on an AR15. What happens if you break it and need to replace it at a moment's notice?
I put scopes that were literally 1/10 of that price on combat guns and those scopes still managed to do just fine in the areas and conditions I used them. I mean...I wish I had $1800 to spend on just a scope! To each his own, I guess.
--1911ShooterPhilComment
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we'll to me it seems you are telling him to drop a Rolls Royce Motor into a Pinto. More than $600 on a scope for a AR15 is just ridiculous!Wasn't referring to your choice in magnification, was referring to your choice of a $150 toy when the OP was willing to spend $1700.
It's like telling the guy that walks in wanting to buy a Porsche, "Hey bub, just buy yourself a Ford Fiesta and save yourself some money." :P
See my reasoning here?
I see people at the range with 14x scope and they are less than 100yds away. I just smile.sigpicComment
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It depends on the type of shooting you do. I shoot mostly precision so my scopes can often cost more than the rifle.$1749.99 for a scope?
I'm sure it's a nice scope...I am just not sure about putting a nice scope like that on an AR15. What happens if you break it and need to replace it at a moment's notice?
I put scopes that were literally 1/10 of that price on combat guns and those scopes still managed to do just fine in the areas and conditions I used them. I mean...I wish I had $1800 to spend on just a scope! To each his own, I guess.
--1911ShooterPhil
I guess bottom line, I put all the money I can into a scope first, THEN buy the rifle.
Most rifles can easily be made to shoot sub-moa, but most scopes can not track properly nor do a good job with mirage or resolution.Comment
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Good point, and you're probably right.
I guess generally speaking, if the guy has no clue about optics, he probably doesn't know how well his gun can shoot, nor can he shoot it as well as it can... course I don't know the OP.
I rescind my previous statements, OP go get a Primary Arms 1-6x until you've explained to us what you want to do and how well you can shoot.
On another note, I personally like 2x per 100 yards, but that's me... however when shooting for groups, I want the friggin target to look like its right in front of me. :PComment
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There's nothing wrong with a fixed 10x optic...
There are US federal government, state, and municipal agencies which have contracts for fixed 10x sniper scopes. These scope include the...- Unertl MST-100 10x40
- SWFA 10x42
- US Optics ST-10 10x44
- Schmidt & Bender PMII 10x42
They are all designed for usage at distances up to and including 1000 yards for weapons up to and including the .50 BMG. I have personally used 10x optics (Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40) at lengthy distances in rough areas, and I can tell you that fixed power scopes have their place among combat optics just as well as variable scopes. Both are tools which, with adequate training and practice, can be used quite well by tactical shooters. --1911ShooterPhil"A gun is a tool. No better and no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel, or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that." Shane (1953)Comment
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