Need Help 1-4X SCOPE

[tal3nt]

Any thoughts on this?

Primary Arms 1-4X 24 Illuminated Scope PA14X

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_...4X_p/pa14x.htm

I have 1. Its awesome! A little bit on the heavy side, but the glass is ridiculously clear and I like the simple reticle design.

[ken5714]

I have had this for a while and really like it:http://www.leupold.com/tactical/scop...5-4x20mm-30mm/

Fairly compact (9.4 inches) and lightweight (11.5oz) almost as quick as my T1 Aimpoint. I think Turners in Oxnard might have them within their display. Bought mine via the internet for $524 at the time on sale. I see them for around $580 or so now. Good Luck.

[PrimaryArms]

Might want to check out our 1-6 ACSS soon to be out.


Dimitri

[FMJBT]

I bought a Leatherwoood CMR 1-4x Scope three months back for the same reasons posted; close to medium range shooting & true 1x power for run and gun shooting. This scope ROCKS! It is also illuminated in either red or green. I payed $330 for the scope and $68 for the Burris PEPR mount.

I run a 1-4X CMR on a RECCE style build, I've been pretty impressed with the performace of this scope too. Like most low power variables though, it is a compromise between close range and medium to long range performance. I think they designed the CMR more with medium to long range performance in mind than CQB. I've used mine for shooting steel at various distances out to 650 yards, I've found the reticle design to excel at engaging multiple targets at varying distances. The BDC points are not exactly spot on, but are close enough to get you on target out to at least 650 yards with a 5.56.

My one complaint with the CMR, and one that I've heard from many others is that the reticle illumination needs to be bright enough to see in daylight. The green illumination on mine is bright enough for use on overcast days, but in sunlight you still just see the black reticle. The reticle itself, while optimal for use at a distance, is too fine for fast, close range work, especially in environments with cluttered backgrounds like brush or rocks. Brighter illumination would definitely help the thin reticle stand out a bit better. Having said that, I do like that on the low to mid range of the illumination, it's perfect for shooting in low light. Coupled with the exceptionally clear glass and light transmission of this scope, the dim illumination allows for shooting in near dark conditions.

[shootin' nuke]

OP, another option to consider would be the Weaver Tactical 1-5x24 seen here: http://weaveroptics.com/optics/tactical/

It's at the top of your price range, but Optics Planet has them for around $600 with a CALGUN coupon code. http://www.opticsplanet.com/weaver-t...pe-800364.html

I've got one and I'm happy with it. Good illuminaiton, very nice glass, and since it is FFP the reticle scales down nicely at 1x for quick pickup.

Here's the reticle.

[Bobby Hated]

I run a Swarovski z6i for 3Gun

but other than spending a months mortgage payment on a scope I would say Vortex PST, Burris MTAC or Burris TAC30

reticle preference is what makes the decision for me when I buy a scope

[problemchild]

There is a thread on an other forum that reviews EVERY 1x4 made (like 100 of them). Its an invaluable thread for buying a scope.

[zio707]

SWFA has really pissed people off by not delivering. They've been promising the 1-6 for something like 2 years now.

It wasn't even close to two years... but it was a longer than expected. Product announcement was January 2012, pre-orders almost two months later, first shipments delivered were January 2013.

Chris Farris' explanation of the delays below, 12th post (The main issues were with the original reticle vendor, then customs).

http://www.opticstalk.com/swfa-16x24hd_topic31730_page5.html

BTW, all SWFA SS scopes that are HD models have better glass than their classic models, BUT the HD does NOT mean what you think.. high definition (optics), think of it as meaning heavy duty. Doubt me please call SWFA and confirm for yourself.

[integr8d]

It wasn't even close to two years... but it was a longer than expected. Product announcement was January 2012, pre-orders almost two months later, first shipments delivered were January 2013.

Chris Farris' explanation of the delays below, 12th post (The main issues were with the original reticle vendor, then customs).

http://www.opticstalk.com/swfa-16x24hd_topic31730_page5.html

BTW, all SWFA SS scopes that are HD models have better glass than their classic models, BUT the HD does NOT mean what you think.. high definition (optics), think of it as meaning heavy duty. Doubt me please call SWFA and confirm for yourself.

I seemed to recall HD as meaning 'high density', when referring to optics. Granted, I do think they mislead with the nomenclature, as most people will think of the display resolution (720P, 1080P/i, 2K, 4K, etc).

Anyway, this guy seems to back it up. Starts chatting specifically about the different lens types at around the 14 minutes mark...

http://youtu.be/GCISX9id86I

Also, where the lenses are manufactured may or may not influence a purchase decision. Typically, the manufacture location infers a certain level of quality control. Since I'm interested in SWFA currently, I've learned that their glass comes from Japan. Personally, that's a big selling point. I know that a lot of Zeiss glass comes from Japan also (with Zeiss engineers overseeing QC). However, their cinema lenses are still made in Germany.

Good luck.

[zio707]

integr8d, I agree when I hear HD and optics I generally think high definition as well. I tried with to find the post from Chris where he said to think of HD as heavy duty when it came to the SS HD line but couldn't; I did find one from him that mentioned HD as a dual meaning "heavy duty and high definition", that's good enough for me and stand corrected.

5th post down

http://www.opticstalk.com/topic17793.html

Absolutely good stuff coming out of Japan, Kowa comes to mind.

[PrimaryArms]

And here is demo video of ACSS

http://youtu.be/nxwaiDeXP8c

Dimitri

[Caseless]

There is a thread on an other forum that reviews EVERY 1x4 made (like 100 of them). Its an invaluable thread for buying a scope.

Here you go.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/421244_The_variable__low_power_multipurpose_scope_review_thread.html

[HossHog]

Fell in love with the Burris MTAC 1-4

I recenltly purcased a Burris MTAC 1-4 illuminated for my socom 16 and I love it. The illumination is awsome in low light but not needed during daylight. The Glass is top notch for the $ and I promise that you will love the bang for the buck you get. Great warranty and the PEPR mount was awsome as well.