Question on optic adjustment

[waxer]

I am looking to see if it's possible to mount my optic (Burris AR-332) so that it is slightly aligned to the left of the iron sights when mounted.

Reason: My vision requires that I wear glasses with prism correction. It's not too bad, but when I wear my glasses and try to sight in, I have to tilt my head considerable to the right to get my eye lined up properly with iron sights or this optic. Without the glasses I can look like a normal person and have my eyes horizontal with a good cheek weld and be able to see the sights properly (just poor vision this way).

I can do one of two things to correct this.

1. Wear shooting glasses without prism correction (resulting in double vision), but able to view the sights normally.
2. Adjust the mounting of the optic so it's over to the left when looking down the sights (approx 1/2") while still wearing my glasses and seeing clearly.

Do they even make mounts that would provide this type of adjustability?


Thanking you all in advance for your suggestions / advice.

[waxer]

This is how the optic is currently lined up on the flat top rail.



If I could get that optic to be mounted about 1/2" to the left, then I would be able to wear my glasses and actually see with my head not being tilted so hard due to the prism correction in my glasses.

[dieselpower]

The best way to go will be to mount the optic on a 45 degree angle to the RIGHT and twist the rifle to the left. This does two things;
1) Keeps the optic in line with the bore and gravities pull (bullet drop)
2) gets the stock out of the way and your head in line with the optic while giving you a solid cheek weld.

Then mount a 45 degree pointed to the left on the forearm, mount your VFG to that. This keeps your weak hand squared, allowing the rifle to be squared to your body. Your pistol grip will be at a 45 since you are holding the whole rifle at a 45.

This will be different, but the object is to get you shooting and seeing what you need to so you can hit what you need to.

[waxer]

The best way to go will be to mount the optic on a 45 degree angle to the RIGHT and twist the rifle to the left. This does two things;
1) Keeps the optic in line with the bore and gravities pull (bullet drop)
2) gets the stock out of the way and your head in line with the optic while giving you a solid cheek weld.

Then mount a 45 degree pointed to the left on the forearm, mount your VFG to that. This keeps your weak hand squared, allowing the rifle to be squared to your body. Your pistol grip will be at a 45 since you are holding the whole rifle at a 45.

This will be different, but the object is to get you shooting and seeing what you need to so you can hit what you need to.

Which mount allows an optic to be mounted at a 45 degree angle? I can't seem to find any out there that do this.

[EvolutionGSR]

http://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPROS

or a cheap one:

http://www.amazon.com/Sports-Degree-Picatinny-Rail-Mount/dp/B00551HBQU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363576850&sr=8-2&keywords=45+degree+offset

or another cheap one:

http://www.amazon.com/UTAC-Degree-Offset-Picatinny-Weaver/dp/B0084QZTLW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363576850&sr=8-1&keywords=45+degree+offset

or you can google " 45 degree offset picatinny" and see the results.


Edit: here is a middle priced one from YHM,

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/115566/yankee-hill-machine-45-degree-offset-picatinny-accessory-rail-2-1-8-aluminum-black

[waxer]

The best way to go will be to mount the optic on a 45 degree angle to the RIGHT and twist the rifle to the left. This does two things;
1) Keeps the optic in line with the bore and gravities pull (bullet drop)
2) gets the stock out of the way and your head in line with the optic while giving you a solid cheek weld.

Then mount a 45 degree pointed to the left on the forearm, mount your VFG to that. This keeps your weak hand squared, allowing the rifle to be squared to your body. Your pistol grip will be at a 45 since you are holding the whole rifle at a 45.

This will be different, but the object is to get you shooting and seeing what you need to so you can hit what you need to.

Ok so I tried holding my rifle at a 45 degree to the left and the stock is still in the same place, making this change ineffective as the optic will be along the same line as the stock. I understand what you were saying, but it just doesn't help on the rifle.

I found a couple pictures illustrating my need, however they have too much of a change and I need to find something with about 1/2" of movement.



Still looking...

[dieselpower]

I know what you are saying, and I understand your problem, but mounting the scope left of axis is not the correct way to solve this problem. The correct way is to adjust your hold. You bring the weapon to your eyes, not your eyes to the weapon.

My wife is left eye dominant, she cannot close the left eye and see out of the right. She is right handed. I simply taught her to shoot lefty. I could have gave her an eye patch to cover her left eye and forced her to shoot that way...as they did in the Military when I was in... but that means she is no good without the eye patch.

I saw and later met a Vet missing his right eye among other damages to his face. He didnt switch to lefty, he didnt buy some crazy left of center mount, he adjusted his hold to allow him to see directly down the bore and his Aimpoint was mounted properly. I will add he did shoot lefty with his shotgun.

Just my 2 cents man.

I hope you the best and I hope you find what you need.

[waxer]

I know what you are saying, and I understand your problem, but mounting the scope left of axis is not the correct way to solve this problem. The correct way is to adjust your hold. You bring the weapon to your eyes, not your eyes to the weapon.

My wife is left eye dominant, she cannot close the left eye and see out of the right. She is right handed. I simply taught her to shoot lefty. I could have gave her an eye patch to cover her left eye and forced her to shoot that way...as they did in the Military when I was in... but that means she is no good without the eye patch.

I saw and later met a Vet missing his right eye among other damages to his face. He didnt switch to lefty, he didnt buy some crazy left of center mount, he adjusted his hold to allow him to see directly down the bore and his Aimpoint was mounted properly. I will add he did shoot lefty with his shotgun.

Just my 2 cents man.

I hope you the best and I hope you find what you need.

Thanks for your responses. Last night I took the rifle and rotated it enough so my right eye could see it fine, and had the wife check the angle that the rifle was being held to acheive this. It was approximately 5-6 degrees. Although that makes the reticle distance adjustments harder to use, I can approximate and get the job done just the same.

It is just unfortunate the reticle on the optic isn't adjustable to account for something like this. But it is what it is and I'll manage.

Thanks again.

[dieselpower]

I am glad you found the sweet spot for your rifle. Its a personal thing and many have their own stance that works for them...its like a golf swing. LOL

Many people try to shoulder a pistol gripped rifle as they would a standard stock, by placing the stock into the shoulder recess pocket anchored off of the clavicle bone. This isnt correct, but works for many people. The stock should be pressed against your breast directly under and inline with your right eye as you hold your head upright.

Grip the AR15 pistol grip with both hands extended out in an isosceles pistol stance which creates a triangle between your body and both arms, stand upright with your head straight up. Pull the rifle into your body and lower your chin, and slightly lean forward with bent knees, tuck your elbows in...this is the proper stance. Some guys recommend rolling your back to make an arch (as demonstrated in Magpul videos.) I dont think thats nessassry, but whatever works, works.

The object is to make sure the rifle is solid and square to your eyes, not your head tilted trying to line up your eye to the rifle.

Many girls make this mistake when not corrected...since they have boobs in the way and their LOP is way different then a mans. Their upper body isnt built the same way. They are forced to lean their head nearly 45 degrees to see down the scope.