EOTECH clones

[G19xG45]

Anyone have any experience with EOTECH 551 and 552 clones? Ebay has them for around $89 to $99.

Any info would be nice.

JAY

[aplinker]

There are no EOTech clones. The EOTech is a holosight, those will be red dots.

[G19xG45]

eotech clones

So what is this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/G-P-Red-Green-Dot-Tactical-551-Type-Sight-Eotech-551_W0QQitemZ370038911394QQihZ024QQcategoryZ66827QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

J

[SFFRONTMAN]

That is a red dot shaped to look like an eotech. It does not use the holographic technology that the eotech does.

[bobfried]

So what is this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/G-P-Red-Green-Dot-Tactical-551-Type-Sight-Eotech-551_W0QQitemZ370038911394QQihZ024QQcategoryZ66827QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

J

A $35 dollar regular red dot housed in an Eotech-ish body. It is either a Holographic Weapon Sight or it's not.

FYI: there was a bacth of special "clones" made a few months ago in Hong Kong (Eotech's are restricted and can't be bought there at all) with actual holographic systems for the reticle. It sold for $400+ and was gone overnight. So if you truly want to buy a real Eotech "clone", it's gonna cost you more than the real thing. Unlike an Aimpoint, the Eotech is not something anyone can truly copy for less than what Eotech charges.

[MAX100]

There is a China made Eotech 551 that is Holographic but they cost $210 shipped. The ones that are not holographic run about $80. You can buy a Bushnell Holographic sight for a little more that comes with a warranty.

The China made AP copies are a steal for what they cost and the performance you get from them. They are very well made for the money.

China Made Eotech 551 Holographic sight copy Link:

http://www.airsoftvanguard.com/index.php?p=6&id=452&new=&cat2=0&cat1=19&cat0=12&lang=en

GC

[maxicon]

I don't think that's a holosight - I've never seen a holosight with a green laser, and I'd be really, really surprised if the Chinese are making a dual-laser holosight for $200. In addition, it's running on LR44 button cells, which don't really have the current for a dual laser setup and any kind of decent battery life.

I'd bet it's just another dual LED red dot, but I'd have to see one to say for sure. Dunno why it's so expensive - maybe better made, but at that point, you're in used Bushnell Holosight turf.

[MAX100]

The China Holographic Eotech copy is running on four LR44 batteries or two 1/3N batteries.

You will notice that the $80 Eotech copy on the website doesn't say it is a Holo sight the $210 copy does. It has 20 brightness settings 10 for each color.

I know nothing about them other than what I have read.


GC

[OutlawDon]

max100,

Any thoughts on the ACOG and Leupold clones, especially the G&P brand ones?

[MAX100]

I would stay away from them. The are a lot of scopes that are just as good as or better than the Leupold scopes but the $80 China Made Leupold copy is not one of them. They are probably worth what they cost but don't expect them to be close in quality and performance for $80.

The ACOG copy is just a scope that looks like a ACOG.


GC

[Solidmch]

you get what you pay for! My opinion they are crap!

[aplinker]

I would stay away from them. The are a lot of scopes that are just as good as or better than the Leupold scopes but the $80 China Made Leupold copy is not one of them. They are probably worth what they cost but don't expect them to be close in quality and performance for $80.

The ACOG copy is just a scope that looks like a ACOG.


GC

Anyone who's ever looked through the glass of an ACOG can attest to how spectacular they are.

Going back to the EOTech fake, I sincerely doubt it's a holographic sight if it uses 2 colors. Having a holographic grating at one wavelength is expensive, but making it work for 2 wavelengths? It's possible, but wouldn't be easy... I've seen red-dots referred to as holo-sights. My guess is they're using a hologram to create the ring effect, but not at the screen is there a hologram (just a red dot). A hologram in front of a diode can create that sight picture.

2 lasers are pricey, but the technology for 2-color holography? hmmm...

My guess is they aren't doing it the same way as EOTech (read: correctly).

I should say, "Try it out! Waste your money!" I'd love to see one and hear about it.

Who knows, they could have made a miracle.

[MAX100]

Case and point BSA Holographic sight sales for around $60 on sale. I wouldn't try one on the China Eotech copies for $210 when a Bushnell can be had for a little more.


GC

[1lostinspace]

Spend the extra money and get something that will always work instead of buying crap over and over again.

[maxicon]

BSA uses the term "holographic" to refer to a tubeless heads-up open frame sight. It's not a true holographic sight, which uses a laser. The BSA is an LED red dot sight, as is the Barska, the ATN, and all the other cheap ones.

It may be a fine point, but technically, that's the case. The cheap Chinese sights aren't holographic, they just use the name.

http://www.eotech-inc.com/history.php

http://www.eotech-inc.com/howto.php

They aren't making 2 color holographic sights, and there aren't any $60 holographic sights. ETA: They certainly could make holographic sights - there's nothing magic about them - but the fact they don't makes me think the cost is too high to do it and sell them cheap enough.

As for the Leupold look-alikes, I have one, and there's no doubt it's much easier to make a decent cheap red dot lookalike than decent cheap magnified optics. The glass on it's not bad, but the assembly quality is mediocre. I've put some rounds under it with no major problems, but honestly, I'd rather use good scopes. With the cost of ammo these days, chasing a wandering zero is way too expensive.