Konus M30 Scope

[636]

I was shown one of the scopes at my local gun shop as a good starter scope for my Remington 700.

Does anyone have any opinions on this scope?

I've found some reports on Konus' spotting scopes and it seems like they're pretty well made.

The plan is to get this rifle set up for 200-1000 yard matches.

[MAX100]

I hear they are good scopes. I haven't had a chance to look one over good.

The M30 4.5-16X40 ILLUM/MILDOT Has 85 MOA total adjustment. With a 20 moa base you should have no problem reaching 1000 yards with a 308. If that is the caliber you are using.

The M30 6.5-25X44 ILLUM/MILDOT. Has 60 MOA total adjustment


GC

[636]

Out of curiosity where did you find the MOA adjustment specs for the scopes?

I hadn't seen that before...

Is it typical for a higher magnification scope to have a smaller degree of adjustment?

I'm really new to scopes, I've never really shot anything that had one at any sort of distance.

Would 16X magnification be good enough to see the target at 1000 yards?

The rifle is chambered in 308.

[Timberwolf]

The specs are on Konus' website;

yes normally the higher the magnification the less internal adjustment;

and, yes 16X is adequate for 1K shooting - I have a 4-16X50 Nikon on my rig and it normally stays on 12X.

[MAX100]

Some scopes may have more MOA adjustment range than the manufacture claim. The 85 moa scope may have as much as 100moa and the 60 moa scope could have as much as 70 or 75 moa.

Maybe less than they claim, also.

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[636]

I've been looking at the Konus USA site. The "real" site has much better information.

How many clicks am I looking at moving from 200 yards to 1000 with a 20 MOA base? Assuming 1 click is 1/8" MOA?

Or am I asking stupid questions and I should be using Google? :P

[Timberwolf]

I've been looking at the Konus USA site. The "real" site has much better information.

How many clicks am I looking at moving from 200 yards to 1000 with a 20 MOA base? Assuming 1 click is 1/8" MOA?

Or am I asking stupid questions and I should be using Google? :P

Depending on your rifle and assuming a 200 yard zero probably between 27 and 31 MOA * 8 for no of clicks

[636]

So assuming they're not being liberal with the number of clicks, I could use the 8.5-32x52 model with a total number of 50 clicks since I will have the 20 MOA base? Or would I be safer going with one of the other models that has more adjustment?

[Timberwolf]

So assuming they're not being liberal with the number of clicks, I could use the 8.5-32x52 model with a total number of 50 clicks since I will have the 20 MOA base? Or would I be safer going with one of the other models that has more adjustment?

Much safer going with one of the other models - I'd recommend the one with the 16X top end - its all you'll need to 1K and it has the added adjustment. By the way its not clicks, its minutes. Those scopes have 1/8 minute turrets so there would be 8 "clicks" per minute.

[636]

So when the manufacturer lists "Adj. Range at 100m/yds: 2.1m/85"

They mean 85 minutes? So for that scope there would be a total of 680 clicks?

[Timberwolf]

So when the manufacturer lists "Adj. Range at 100m/yds: 2.1m/85"

They mean 85 minutes? So for that scope there would be a total of 680 clicks?

correct but remember a "click" is only 1/8 of an inch - 1 minute equals 1 inch for every 100 yard increment (Shooters MOA) - we count dope in minutes or MOA

[636]

So if 12X is plenty for 1k shooting. Why would a manufacturer even offer higher magnifications?

Also, thanks for answering all my (probably stupid) questions!

[Timberwolf]

So if 12X is plenty for 1k shooting. Why would a manufacturer even offer higher magnifications?

Also, thanks for answering all my (probably stupid) questions!

Because people think it makes 'em shoot better and buy them - seriously higher magnification is alright for target ID etc but it can actually hamper your shooting by accenting your movements - it just depends of what you're shooting.