Testing my logic - "BDC" or no BDC

[Reelbruin]

Ok, so I have been going back and forth over whether to get a NF scope with a velocity 600 reticle, or NP-R1 or R2 reticle (I like NF because MOA turrets/MOA reticle, not into mixing). I have shooting experience but recently purchased my first .308 and looking to put some serious glass on it. I am thinking I am NOT going to purchase a velocity reticle (also looked at rapid z for Zeiss because):

- It appears the velocity reticle or (rapid z) locks you in a bit to various loads, e.g. choosing low velocity vs medium velocity for the NF; or on the rapid z, they seem fairly specific as to which caliber they are made for.

- I don't want in the case of rapid z to feel like one magnification makes it work (hitting "optimize power" on the calculator) because if i have max power, i want to use max power

- I want to shoot a variety of loads and experiment; i don't see myself getting into reloading and chronographing factory ammo, so i don't want to worry about that

- i have good ballistics calculators and know how to use them

- i can zero for various loads and keep dope sheets and use the fine adjustments, and work it out

So all that said - i'm thinking no velocity reticle and get the NP-R1 or R2. Does this reasoning seem sound?

Also, the NF is a pretty penny, but i was pretty much looking at them or the SS scopes (mil/mil) because i don't want to mix mil reticles with moa dials or vice versa. Any suggestions on scopes/brand appreciated. It's going on a LWRC 20" REPR. Application primarily target shooting, hoping to get good at long range, maybe compete.

[kato4moto]

What's your budget? (Personally not a fan of BDC reticles as you're kind of locked into whatever specific load/barrel factor the engineers figured would apply to the "average" consumer. I'll always go for a mil-dot or mil-hash style of reticle like NF's MLR, but I'd like to try the MOAR and Velocity 1000.)

[HK Dave]

If going mil/mil you want MLR, MLR2 or Mildot.

If going moa/moa you want MOAR.

The BDC stuff is too restrictive... unless it's Horus.

[HK Dave]

If going mil/mil you want MLR, MLR2 or Mildot.

If going moa/moa you want MOAR.

The BDC stuff is too restrictive... unless it's Horus.

[BobbyZ]

I am deciding the same thing right now. Looks like the nightforce website just changed and the MOAR is new for 2012. I didn't even see the NP reticles. I think the MOAR is what I'm going to go with. It's such an expensive purchase that I don't want to be restricted and have to buy another one when I get a different caliber and want to use it.

[PrimaryArms]

Ok, so I have been going back and forth over whether to get a NF scope with a velocity 600 reticle, or NP-R1 or R2 reticle (I like NF because MOA turrets/MOA reticle, not into mixing). I have shooting experience but recently purchased my first .308 and looking to put some serious glass on it. I am thinking I am NOT going to purchase a velocity reticle (also looked at rapid z for Zeiss because):

- It appears the velocity reticle or (rapid z) locks you in a bit to various loads, e.g. choosing low velocity vs medium velocity for the NF; or on the rapid z, they seem fairly specific as to which caliber they are made for.

- I don't want in the case of rapid z to feel like one magnification makes it work (hitting "optimize power" on the calculator) because if i have max power, i want to use max power

- I want to shoot a variety of loads and experiment; i don't see myself getting into reloading and chronographing factory ammo, so i don't want to worry about that

- i have good ballistics calculators and know how to use them

- i can zero for various loads and keep dope sheets and use the fine adjustments, and work it out

So all that said - i'm thinking no velocity reticle and get the NP-R1 or R2. Does this reasoning seem sound?

Also, the NF is a pretty penny, but i was pretty much looking at them or the SS scopes (mil/mil) because i don't want to mix mil reticles with moa dials or vice versa. Any suggestions on scopes/brand appreciated. It's going on a LWRC 20" REPR. Application primarily target shooting, hoping to get good at long range, maybe compete.

With out chrono data,external ballistic info and current conditions imputed in your MOA adjustment you will not be using your scope to its full potential.

Dimitri