Nightforce question

[BobbyZ]

Hey Gunners. So I didn't do too much research on a nightforce scope but put it on my Amazon wishlist as a reminder to research some more. To my utter amazement, someone got it for me for xmas. Problem is, I don't know if it was the right one to get.

So it is a 2.5-10X32 NXS. It's great, it's incredible but I'm a pig guy and I need max light cause it's almost always dusk when I get 'em. I wonder if I need the X50 for more light and also if the 10X is enough. I hunt the mountains and although I've only shot 250 yards max to drop a pig, and this scope can get me there, I don't know if I will regret not having more magnification. It's an expensive accessory to not buy right the first time. I obviously would have to pitch in more $ to get another scope.

Am I fine? Am I on the right track to returning and getting a ?-?X56? If so which one? How much magnification do people prefer? Right now I only have an AR-15 and have used the rancher's gun cause the AR doesn't necessarily have the balls or the scope for it. I will be looking into a 7mm soon. Not sure what type yet. So although I'll play with it on the AR and I've seen plenty of AR's with this scope on them, it will be primarily used on a gun with more range and punch.

Any help would be great. Thanks all.

[phish]

Wow, someone must love you.

What you could do is set up or look at a similar sized target at your typical pig hunting distance in dusk conditions. If you can still see the target/object, you should be good to go.

The nice thing about your scope is it's compact and lightweight. Try poking around Snipershide. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has asked a similar question.

[Divernhunter]

It is a Nightforce and that means it has great glass. I think you will find it will out preforme other scopes with larger lenses.
Ten power is all you need. I have taken game at 600+ yards with a 3X9 or a 3.5X10 scope. Not that one should take those type of shots but sometimes that is all you can get. With practice it can be done but I do not suggest everyone do it as a rule.
I have 2 Nightforces on my 50bmg rifles and they are fantastic.
You will not want a X56 on a normal rifle(bolt,pump etc) as it will make you put your head in an more upwards position. You will nat be able to shoot in a natural position with one. Sooner or later it will cost you game and it will force you into a bad habit when shooting.

[Bobby Hated]

i shoot out to 500 yds with a 3X magnifier on my eotech for 3Gun so you should be pretty good with 10X out to 600 no problem. im actually thinking of buying the same scope for my REPR in 308.

the only thing to think about is that the adjustments have to match the reticle type. MOA/MOA or MilDot/MilDot. what you dont want is a MilDot reticle with MOA adjustments.

[BobbyZ]

Okay. Thanks for the info so far guys. Looks like 2.5-10X is perfect and the quality of the glass will draw in enough light.

The reticle is MilDot so I will check the adjustments when I get home. Fingers crossed. I was reading about that earlier and I gather that it means that each click will be a dot on the reticle if they match and it'll be off in not. Is that correct?

Again, thanks for the info so far all three of you.

[BobbyZ]

The adjustments are .25 MOA and the reticle is MilDot. So how does that effect the performance? And why would it ever be manufactured like this?

[Divernhunter]

It will work out. Be sure to lap the rings when you mount the scope. If you do not have the lapping br etc I have all the stuff. You are not that far from me and you could bring it over and we could lap and mount your scope. You could then compare yours to my Nightforce NXS 5.5X22X56 NP-R2 scopes. If it is a weekend we could take it out and sight it in. Also you could shoot the 50bmg and compare scopes.

[BobbyZ]

I like your moves divernhunter. As it was a gift from my mom, I don't have a mount yet. That's another question. Mounts are specific to the gun, height wise right? So I may get a mount for my AR and then have to fork out for another when I pick up my 7mm cause the height might be wrong? I'll do some research right now. Thanks for the invite. I'll definitely take you up on that. Always want to meet up with other CalGunners.

[Fjold]

I'd rather have the lower power scope for hunting. At 2.5X you'll have a wider field of view for getting on target quicker. At 8X you'll still have a 4mm exit pupil which is about as big as a 30+ year old's eye will dilate to.

[Bobby Hated]

The adjustments are .25 MOA and the reticle is MilDot. So how does that effect the performance? And why would it ever be manufactured like this?

return it and get one with a MOA reticle.

if your shots are off and you can see where they are by Mildots, how are you going to adjust with MOA adjustment?

one MIL at 100 yards is 3.53", one MOA at 100 yards is 1". you want to do the math each time you take a shot to figure out the correct adjustment?

[BobbyZ]

Bobby Hated- that's what I was thinking was the issue. Okay. Will do. Any downside in getting MilDot adjustments since I like the reticle?

[Bobby Hated]

i prefer the math of 1" adjustments with MOA. as an american if i see a shot hit so many inches away and i know the size of the object im shooting at, i can make a reasonable guess as to how many inches to adjust, whether or not i was able to square the hit on my crosshair notches.

but then again the rest of the world goes by metric scale, so 3.53" adjustments might make sense to someone else. it really shouldnt matter cause youre adusting by scale, but look how many more reference points there are on a MOA reticle like MOAR or NP-R1 or NP-R2. IMHO it makes for easier adjustment from shot to shot.

i cant for the life of me understand why anyone would use MilDot except that the intrangible bureaucracy of the military told them to, but im not a long range expert either. i just do what easiest for me.

[negolien]

Sometimes ya just get what you get and work with it. I only have a 4.5 Buckmaster but it's mil-moa. I find the adjustments are fairly straight forward for a tard like me :<). I only use the Mildots for differing distances not for measuring distance though. Spot on has been a boon for me.

[BobbyZ]

Sometimes ya just get what you get and work with it. I only have a 4.5 Buckmaster but it's mil-moa. I find the adjustments are fairly straight forward for a tard like me :<). I only use the Mildots for differing distances not for measuring distance though. Spot on has been a boon for me.

Hey could you clarify differing distances but not measuring distances? Not quite following you. If they match up I assume it's a dash on the reticle per click and not so if they don't match.

[Pthfndr]

If they match up I assume it's a dash on the reticle per click and not so if they don't match.

That's not how it works.

On a MOA reticle the hash marks could be in 1/2, 1 or 2 moa increments. And the knob clicks could be in 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 or 1 moa increments.

On a MIL reticle the hash marks or mildots are generally spaced evenly 1 mil apart, with hash marks at 1/2 mil increments (if it uses hash marks). Some will have both, some only full mil increments. The click value on mil knobs is typically in 1/10 mil increments, with full mil numbers after every 10 1/10 mil marks.

Read this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=154413