Eotech vs. Aimpoint

[Gary O]

I thought they were both quality optics. What say you? Thanks...

[Intimid8tor]

They are both quality optics. Just different styles.

What's your question.

[Dinosaur Jr]

I'll be surprised if anyone disagrees. I have an Eotech and love it. Aimpoint is also 100% GTG.

[dieselpower]

Only older ones have issues. Pre Rev-F EOtechs and Bushnel Holosites are junk. Same with Aimpoint M2s

[ExtremeX]

Both are good, but I think Aimpoint has features that personally appeal to me more, specifically battery life. But I do like the Eotech design and reticle.

[sunrisefordrene]

My personal opinion is that if you aim at it, and you hit it, then the optics are just fine. No matter what name is on it. I put an NC star sniper scope on my AR. Its like the poor mans acog. I get 2inch groups at 200 yards. My 11 year old son can shoot 4 inch groups at that same distance.Thats just my humble opinion.. I do have a question about those magazine "repair kits". You can get those 20 and 30 round AR magazines and they are called "repair kits" so that makes them legal to sell...does that also mean that they are legal to use? If Im in the wrong place to ask that question, please let me know...kinda new

[ExtremeX]

My personal opinion is that if you aim at it, and you hit it, then the optics are just fine. No matter what name is on it. I put an NC star sniper scope on my AR. Its like the poor mans acog. I get 2inch groups at 200 yards. My 11 year old son can shoot 4 inch groups at that same distance.Thats just my humble opinion.. I do have a question about those magazine "repair kits". You can get those 20 and 30 round AR magazines and they are called "repair kits" so that makes them legal to sell...does that also mean that they are legal to use? If Im in the wrong place to ask that question, please let me know...kinda new

Not a big fan of the world of quality optics hu?

There is so much more to an optic beside just aiming and hitting your target. Durability, clarity, resolution, repeatability, reticle design, you name it. I’ve owned my fair share of budget optics and to be honest I won’t be going back anytime soon. Shoot with a real ACOG for a month and tell me if you want to go back…

Rebuild / Repair kits are exactly what the descriptions implies. To rebuild or repair an existing magazine. Manufacturing of importing of high capacity magazines is illegal.

[sunrisefordrene]

Thanks for the info on the mags...As far as the optics, im sure your right , or at least have a point , regarding the real acog...but, food for thought...does the suit make the man, or the man make the suit?

[ExtremeX]

I say this with experience and respect since I’ve been there and done that with optics…

Even if the man can make the suit, but the suit is falling apart and tearing from the seams, I’ll take the high priced suit and grow into it.

I won’t deny, I’ve owned and used NCStar and Barska scopes, including NCStar red/green dot optic. Every one of those units either broke, exhibited some type of unreliable or out-of-spec operation. It if didn’t happen out of the box, it happened soon after buying it.

Example 1: NC Star RDS – POI shifts out of the box.
Example 2: NCStar Pistol scope, reticle shattered while zeroing optic and killed my range trip, and lost $40 in the process.
Example 3: Barska Scope, turrets do not track worth a damn and the reticle exhibits massive POI shift as you change magnification. To make matters worse I can dial up 10 MOA and back to zero and it does not return to zero. It won’t pass the “box test” if its life depended on it.

I won’t even sell these optics on calguns marketplace… it just feels wrong knowing what I know about them.

It didn’t take me long to learn my lesson. Optics is an area you really do get what you pay for.

Even if all that stuff did work, you still have the fact you just can’t buy good quality glass for that type of money. I do a lot of low light and night shooting + day time target shooting. Clear bright glass really goes a long way and makes for a pretty pleasurable experience. I don’t know if it’s my past experiences as a photographer, but I just got used to the fact nice glass doesn’t come cheap.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… “If you do want to shop on price… why not consider the bottom of the line… from a REPUTABLE manufacture…?!”

[NiteQwill]

My personal opinion is that if you aim at it, and you hit it, then the optics are just fine. No matter what name is on it. I put an NC star sniper scope on my AR. Its like the poor mans acog. I get 2inch groups at 200 yards. My 11 year old son can shoot 4 inch groups at that same distance.Thats just my humble opinion.. I do have a question about those magazine "repair kits". You can get those 20 and 30 round AR magazines and they are called "repair kits" so that makes them legal to sell...does that also mean that they are legal to use? If Im in the wrong place to ask that question, please let me know...kinda new

Thanks for the info on the mags...As far as the optics, im sure your right , or at least have a point , regarding the real acog...but, food for thought...does the suit make the man, or the man make the suit?

There is a HUGE difference between a $100 scope and one that sells for $5000. If you think otherwise, oh well... 2 inch groups at 200 yards are just that... MOA. Most folks shoot that in high power with just iron sights.

There is a reason people trust their lives on their (expensive) equipment...

[ExtremeX]

There is a HUGE difference between a $100 scope and one that sells for $5000. If you think otherwise, oh well... 2 inch groups at 200 yards are just that... MOA. Most folks shoot that in high power with just iron sights.

There is a reason people trust their lives on their (expensive) equipment...

You don’t even have to go to that extreme, there’s a huge difference between a $100 and $500 scope in the same league.

Considering this is a Red Dot thread topic, just take a look at a Primary Arms Micro dot for about $100 and what Aimpoint brings to the table at $500. Added durability, battery life in the years on constant on performance, better glass clarity…. It’s the difference between a hobby optic from a reputable manufacture and a working man’s optic from a company who markets to LE and Military.

To further elaborate on what NiteQwill said… even if you are not in the field or 2 way range trusting your life and limb to your equipment, good optics can often be looked at as an investment.

[roushstage2]

I'm still up in the air about an Aimpoint or EOTech (want to shoot with an EOTech before I decide), but a question about the clarity on the Aimpoint glass vs my PA Micro Dot or even the Bushnell TRS. I'm shooting with both eyes open through a red dot sight; I'm simply seeing a red dot "suspended" in my field of view over my target. What is [better] glass clarity going to do for me?

[ExtremeX]

I'm still up in the air about an Aimpoint or EOTech (want to shoot with an EOTech before I decide), but a question about the clarity on the Aimpoint glass vs my PA Micro Dot or even the Bushnell TRS. I'm shooting with both eyes open through a red dot sight; I'm simply seeing a red dot "suspended" in my field of view over my target. What is [better] glass clarity going to do for me?

I have a PA Micro…

To be honest in that style of shooting probably not much… but I like transparency in my glass… I think glass clarity is a lot more advantageous in scopes where you are looking and working through the glass vs superimposing the reticle using both eyes.

What I didn’t like about the Primary Arms Micro Dot is the deep blue tint (and this is where the transparency thing comes into play) on the lenses, which was really pronounced in low light. In indoor ranges I get some sort of funky reflections on the rear lens which tends to distract a little since none of the glass has anti-reflective coatings, and if they do, not very good coatings. All of these were either resolved or less pronounced with an Aimpoint as there is still some tint on the lenses, but nowhere as much.

Eotech vs Aimpoint… I REALLY like both, try both, as the laser projected reticle of the Eotech looks a lot different than the simple sharp dot of the Aimpoint. Eotech almost had a “dot matrix printer” type feel to it.

I do like the Eotech because it feels even faster than the Aimpoint, and the 1 MOA center dot it’s easier to get accurate with. If Eotech had the battery life of an Aimpoint I would be all over it, which is the selling point that gets me on the Aimpoint side. I’m a huge Trijicon fan, I love the always on no battery design and I still look to them for my reflex sights.

[roushstage2]

Hmmm. I haven't had any reflection issues with my PA. The clarity is a definite advantage in scopes. Having always used cheaper scopes, when I got my Burris Fullfield II last week, wow!

I've looked through an EOTech and the reticle looked fine to me, IIRC (I only looked through it for a minute a few months ago). Of course, looking through it and using it are two different things. I do like the battery life of the Aimpoint.

[ExtremeX]

Reflection issues are hit / miss… its almost non-existent outdoors. It’s the lighting scenarios I am in often… I get them primarily at my indoor range when the rear lighting is brighter than what is downrange. I use my PA Micro on a pistol and Ruger 10/22, not on my AR so most of my shooting is done at an indoor range using them.

I never said anything was bad or wrong with the Eotech reticle, I just said it’s different. The way the laser projects the image gives a dot matrix type pattern to it. If you take the time to side by side an Aimpoint and Eotech you will see what I’m referring to.

For that type of shooting style they are both good, and 100% personal preference when it comes to design and their strong points.