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  • #31
    HK Dave
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2008
    • 5737

    Frankly, high quality red dot sites are built tough. Same with any high end optics...

    However, just like anything else mechanical, it can break.

    However with the high end stuff, the breaking is pretty rare.

    If your life depends on it and you're out in the sandbox, yes I'd get some kind of BUIS... if you're a plinker here in the safety of our great nation, i think you'll be ok without em.

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    • #32
      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20826

      if you have them

      murphy's law will insure you never need to use them

      if you don't well a bird will probably poop on you

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      • #33
        patriot_man
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 2640

        I know this thread is about a week old but I had to add that you should have back up irons if you plan on preparing for changing weather as well. In heavy rain you will not be able to see longer distances though your 1x sight. Best to have back up sights for this situations.

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        • #34
          TATB
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 49

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          • #35
            Bobby Ricigliano
            Mit Gott und Mauser
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 17439

            I'd say that the very small number of carbines out there that get hard use (Mil, LE, hard use in training courses, etc) need a BUIS, just in case.

            Otherwise, the vast majority of carbines that are tricked out just look cool in for photo shoots and buddy get togethers, 100 rounds per year from the bench, and regular rubdowns with a cloth diaper... Well those don't need BUIS per se....

            And by the way, the Magpul BUIS is cheap, light, and reliable. I wouldn't personally drop big bucks on a BUIS when the Magpuls do the same job cheaper and lighter and just as well.

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            • #36
              five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34896

              All the really cool operators have a BUIS.

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              • #37
                OpticsPlanet
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Apr 2009
                • 2129

                I believe it to be similar to a tourniquet - you may never need one, but if you DO need one, you need it REALLY badly and in a hurry.

                The weight seems negligible for the potential benefits. Many new owners need something on the rifle while saving for the first optic.

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                • #38
                  krnrspd
                  Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 307

                  ever tried to find N cell batteries while you are in the middle of BLM land? While my eotech may not have failed, human error prevailed. I would have been SOL if I didn't have my irons so at least I could plink.

                  How does the old saying go, "If 1 is good, 2 is better?"

                  There are countless adages we can all come up with, bottom line, it's a ~$800+ rifle, can you spare $80 and a couple of slots on your rail in between the surefire weapon light & IR laser gun p0rn to mount a couple of CYA pieces...just in case?
                  Last edited by krnrspd; 11-10-2012, 5:15 AM.

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                  • #39
                    The War Wagon
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10294

                    Originally posted by SoCalXD
                    Any thoughts on this, or any experiences with failed milspec red-dots? (excluding dead batteries, of course).
                    Seeing as how Radio Shack is likely to be closed even BEFORE the apocalypse (Obamanomics, don'tcha know... ), dead batteries is EXACTLY why I have BUIS.

                    Murphy works in electronics, too.
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                    • #40
                      email
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2503

                      Got mud on the rds. Had gloves on with mud on them.

                      Pulled off rds used irons to finish.

                      I think it would be foolish not to have them.

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                      • #41
                        Sumo99
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 781

                        Not a red dot, but I was a little amazed how many photos there are of US troops using ACOG's with no backup rear sight.

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                        • #42
                          dieselpower
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11471

                          Originally posted by Sumo99
                          Not a red dot, but I was a little amazed how many photos there are of US troops using ACOG's with no backup rear sight.
                          I was told the matech get's snagged on gear and is a PITA...so guys toss it in their sack. I think that is what you are seeing.

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                          • #43
                            MXRider
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 2927

                            The matech sight is a piece of junk IMO. The KAC 200-600 micro is a much nicer back up sight.

                            Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

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                            • #44
                              Quickdraw Mcgraw
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 711

                              Anything man made fails and when it does I don't want to have to go home to fix it....sometimes the trip home is 5+hrs so the MBUS are always on my guns, and I always have extra batteries in my grip!

                              Plus like someone else said it sure makes sighting things in a lot easier!

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