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  • Silent909
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 87

    NEW GUN W/O SIGHTS, WHAT SHOULD I GET?

    Im planning to buy a DPMS Oracle AR 15 223 in a couple weeks but i was told that it did not come with sights. So what sights should i get? i mean iron sights FRONT & REAR.

    Thanks
  • #2
    PrimaryArms
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Jun 2011
    • 2676

    These are great small compact with BDC 5.56

    Quality rifle scopes including LPVO 1-6x, 1-8x variable power, and long-range optics. Primary Arms ACSS reticles, Vortex, Leupold, and more brands.
    www.primaryarms.com

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    • #3
      sholling
      I need a LIFE!!
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2007
      • 10360

      I like folding sights because they leave the option to add an optic later. For a brand I like Troy sights for their rugged construction and low profile when folded. Assuming you'll be mounting the front sight to the gas block I'd call Troy and have them spec you out a set. I know they do have a solution for gas block mounting so be sure to tell them if that's your plan.
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      • #4
        jakejake527
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 1078

        1. Figure out what you want to use it for...

        shooting bulls eye targets (slow and precise) vs man sized targets (fast acquisition)

        for precision get a scope.......for fast acquisition get a red dot........iron sights if you want to use iron sights although they are not necessary even as back up


        2. Determine your budget

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        • #5
          ExtremeX
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 7160

          Just depends on what you want, but if you want a set of folding “irons” that are affordable the Magpul BUIS are decent. Metal sights from Arms or Troy are generally more stout.

          Personally I don’t run irons… I like my optics due to the type of shooting I like to do.

          So what jakejake said applies here.
          ExtremeX

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          • #6
            Silent909
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 87

            Originally posted by PrimaryArms
            These are great small compact with BDC 5.56

            https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_...3X_p/pac3x.htm
            Oh thats nice, I'll probably get that but later after my iron sights. thanks for the suggestion

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            • #7
              Silent909
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 87

              Originally posted by sholling
              I like folding sights because they leave the option to add an optic later. For a brand I like Troy sights for their rugged construction and low profile when folded. Assuming you'll be mounting the front sight to the gas block I'd call Troy and have them spec you out a set. I know they do have a solution for gas block mounting so be sure to tell them if that's your plan.
              Yea thats what i was thinking. Should i get both folding sights or just the back that folds?

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              • #8
                Silent909
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 87

                Originally posted by jakejake527
                1. Figure out what you want to use it for...

                shooting bulls eye targets (slow and precise) vs man sized targets (fast acquisition)

                for precision get a scope.......for fast acquisition get a red dot........iron sights if you want to use iron sights although they are not necessary even as back up


                2. Determine your budget
                Both, the range and tactical practice/home defense. So you think I should get a red dot that has a magnifier as well? I saw this one video of a guy with an AR 15, a scope that could fold to the side if he wanted to use his folding iron sights. That was interesting.

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                • #9
                  Silent909
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 87

                  Yea like i told jakejake I wanna do both range & tactical/home defense. I could do a scope that folds to the side for the range & iron sights for tactical/home defense but I doubt thats the best setup for both situations

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                  • #10
                    sholling
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 10360

                    Originally posted by Silent909
                    Yea thats what i was thinking. Should i get both folding sights or just the back that folds?
                    I prefer both to fold but a fixed front sight doesn't really get in the way of a scope.
                    "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

                    Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the California Rifle & Pistol Association

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                    • #11
                      Silent909
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 87

                      Originally posted by sholling
                      I prefer both to fold but a fixed front sight doesn't really get in the way of a scope.
                      Yea true and if it does then i could just make the scope higher because i was thinking in a tactical situation, Im not gonna have time to flip the sights up and down all the time.

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                      • #12
                        jakejake527
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 1078

                        1. You can attach a red dot/laser beside your scope at an angled mount. I once mounted a laser underneath the handguard/quadrail with a pressure pad switch and the scope on top.

                        2. Red dots with magnifiers are ok in my opinion but I enjoy variable power scopes when it comes to precision shooting. magnifiers are fixed power ...7x max ( not high enough for me) with a very limited field of view

                        3. Can't do everything with one rifle
                        Last edited by jakejake527; 10-11-2012, 1:13 AM.

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                        • #13
                          sholling
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 10360

                          Originally posted by Silent909
                          Yea true and if it does then i could just make the scope higher because i was thinking in a tactical situation, Im not gonna have time to flip the sights up and down all the time.
                          You wouldn't be flipping them up and down all the time. If you're carrying the weapon and the optic is on the weapon the sights are down, if the optic is off then the sights are up. Troy sights are aluminum and pretty darn solid and I wouldn't worry too much about them unless you just get crazy with your handling. On the other hand Magpul plastic sights feel a bit delicate and in my view are purely backup sights.

                          You'll probably want to think through what sort of optic you plan, if any. If you plan a good quality red dot or holographic sight or a scope with a true 1x low-end (e.g. Weaver V3 1-3x20, Nikon M-223 1-4x20, or Vortex PST 1-4x24) then the sights are there solely there as backups against a failure. On the other hand if you're going for a high magnification scope in a quick disconnect (QD) mount the sights become your primary CQB sights. True 1x scopes work fine as both eyes open sights but if you go with a higher magnification scope you want it in a QD mount so you can get it the heck out of the way for close quarters.

                          FWIW even with the front sight up you won't even see the front sight once you dial the magnification above about 2-2.5x. The front sight just disappears.
                          Last edited by sholling; 10-11-2012, 9:20 AM.
                          "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

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                          • #14
                            Sumo99
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 781

                            Option 1 - Flip-ups front and rear: Personally, I like Troy sights. I really do not like magpul sights. Not because of the plastic, but I find the sight picture to be terrible.

                            Option 2 - Fixed sights front & rear: For fixed sights there is Troy, Daniel Defense and LMT. I know there are others, but these are 3 I can think of.

                            Option 3 - Flip up rear, fixed front

                            Option 4 - Off set sights: Surefire (Deuck) sights, JP and a few others. If running a scope, you don't have to worry about flipping them up or taking off your scope 1st. Just cant the rifle 45 degrees and you can use irons.

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                            • #15
                              Silent909
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 87

                              Originally posted by jakejake527
                              1. You can attach a red dot/laser beside your scope at an angled mount. I once mounted a laser underneath the handguard/quadrail with a pressure pad switch and the scope on top.

                              2. Red dots with magnifiers are ok in my opinion but I enjoy variable power scopes when it comes to precision shooting. magnifiers are fixed power ...7x max ( not high enough for me) with a very limited field of view

                              3. Can't do everything with one rifle
                              Yea clearly I need 2 rifles haha one for closed tactical and one for precision

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