Need Advise on Red Dot for my AR

[gunpacker]

Hey Gang,

I'm looking for a red dot to put on my Ar-15. Funds are limited.
I have narrowed it down to one of these.

http://muelleroptics.com/mqs12233mb

or

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/546845/millett-red-dot-sight-30mm-tube-1x-variable-sized-dot-3-5-8-10-moa-with-weaver-style-rings-matte

I kind of like the open view of the mueller better than the tube type of millett.

I know this topic has probably been whipped like a dead horse.

Thanks,

gunpacker

[HK Dave]

Both are trash. For $10 more you can go with a Primary Arms Microdot.

[REDPATCHUSMC]

2nd the Primary Arms!

[Whiterabbit]

Just stay away from the matchdot. There have been problems lately with them (or at least just a string of reports!)

And it looks like that millet is a reverse engineered matchdot sent to China for cheap-labor copying.

[jester_motorsports]

PFI Rapid Reticle SOPS 33mm Reflex Red Dot

[Bunsen]

3rd for Primary Arms Microdot

[SloChicken]

Just stay away from the matchdot. There have been problems lately with them (or at least just a string of reports!)

And it looks like that millet is a reverse engineered matchdot sent to China for cheap-labor copying.

If you are referring to the UltraDot MatchDot, then I am sorry, but I would have to beg to differ with you on that.
For one, ultradot has a lifetime warranty on their products.
See here: http://www.ultradotwest.com/ultradot...20warranty.pdf
Second, I have a ultradot MatchDot on my 454 casull revolver with well over 1000 rounds through it, all of it with the scope on it. Works just like the day I bought it and it holds zero perfectly. I would contend that if it can handle the recoil of the casull round, it shouldn't have much trouble with other options for the sight.

Last, they do make a sight with an on the fly bullet drop compensator setup and I believe it is specifically for ARs/5.56 rounds. Really looks like a good option.

I am no flag waver for these guys as i have 7 scopes and 4 red dot sights. Every last one of them is a different brand. Nevertheless, the UltraDot brand is a fine setup and has a great following by many shooters. Just wanted to straighten out what I feel is misinformation in the quoted post above.

Personally, on my red dot sighted AR I use a Vortex strikefire ($169 most places) with a 3x Primary arms magnifier ($109). I am quite happy with this setup for hunting or SHTF scenarios. Not so much for killing little paper circles with numbers on them, as I am (would like to consider myself more accurate than a 2moa is useful for at 100 yds, especially compared to a fine duplex scope. Compounding the lack of precision is the magnifier, when in uses makes my reticle a 6moa ... Not so good for little round paper targets with scores on them - 6moa is just fine for thorax or shoulder shots at up to a couple of hundred yards tho.

Personally, for a couple of hundred bucks I would consider getting one of the Vortex offerings, and on an equal level, would be the Primary Arms Red dots. I know the Vortex includes a mount, and I think the PA one does too.

For well, quite a bit more, is the AimPoint Pro, or the EoTech 512 at about 400 smackers each.

Any way,

Good luck! And don't cheap out!

[Dinosaur Jr]

Primary Arms for the win... +1

[Vepr 54R]

I have the NcStar knock off version of the Mueller (plain with no light sensing) and it is OK, not great, but OK.

[jakejake527]

Primary Arms micro dot has been out of stock for a while...Bushnell trs 25 is another option

[Rider1k]

I just put a Bushnell trs 25 on my tactical 12 ga. Haven't sighted it yet so I can't tell ya how it is. But its less than 100 bucks.

[mws314]

Never personally used it but the vortex strikefire seems like it might be a descent cheap red dot

[Josh3239]

Both are trash. For $10 more you can go with a Primary Arms Microdot.

Wouldn't take both for free. Primary Arms makes some great stuff, I have 'em, I like em a lot.