Nightforce or US Optics

[snaggletooth]

I was thinking about a US Optics SN3 1.8-10 or a NightForce 2.5-10 NXS. I was wondering which one would be a better pick? I need something rugged and clear (lol, doesn't everybody?), and was wondering what are the thoughts and opinions of those on this board? What are y'alls experience with either? The nightforce is an illuminated scope correct?

[PistolPete75]

uso if you want all the bells and whistles, most importantly a ffp scope. uso is a custom scope, so you can do anything you want to it with the right amount of cash.

but for that power level, i don't think you really need to spend the big bucks and go with uso.

look at the leupold mark4 3-10x which might fit the bill very well, or a 10x fixed scope from ior.

[akspetsnaz]

Nightforce 2.5x is better. Excellent glass, illuminated reticle and much lighter weight. Also, you can pick whatever mounts you want.

[rksimple]

I don't think you'll find many people that put the NF ahead of the USO in quality. Its close, but not quite to USO level. More importantly, NF does not offer a ffp scope. That may change after the shot show.

What type of shooting do you want to do? Do you know what first focal plane is and why its important? Do you care if its ffp or sfp? If you don't mind a sfp scope and limited adjustment per turn of the knobs, the NF is probably all you'll need.

[10RoundLimit]

I am new to scopes and from what I understand- with the FFP the rectical gets larger when the mag. is turned up along with the sight picture. But why is this preffered? I would think having the sight picture grow and the recticle stay the same would alow for a more precice shot with less recticle covering the target.
I have never owned a scope before and am curious why most everyone opts for the FFP when available as an option. Thanks

[Timberwolf]

I am new to scopes and from what I understand- with the FFP the rectical gets larger when the mag. is turned up along with the sight picture. But why is this preffered? I would think having the sight picture grow and the recticle stay the same would alow for a more precice shot with less recticle covering the target.
I have never owned a scope before and am curious why most everyone opts for the FFP when available as an option. Thanks

With a FFP, assuming you have some type of ranging reticle such as mildots, you can range at every power as the reticle increases with the power level.

[Timberwolf]

As to the question NF v USO - there is no comparison - the NF is a good Benz, the USO is a Bentley - how many scopes can you dirve nails with and have them still work as they should?

[snaggletooth]

I was looking more for a FFP and did not realize the NightForce was not FFP, and with what you have said, I am going for broke (quite literaly) and goin for the USO, thanks for the opinions, thought about the Leuopold for awhile, but I already had a few, and wanted something new. The type of shooting is more for 2-600, I was thinking along the lines of using it for the tactial shooting matches at chabot and what not.

[Wedge]

U.S.OPTICS

Go with a U.S.OPTICS , I Have a SN4 1X4 POWER Variable on my M1A. It is built like a Tank plus the people at U.S. Optics back their product 100%. They mounted my scope for me and bore sighted it for me free of charge. The optics in their Scopes are top notch, and they come with lifetime warranty. Go with them! Wedge

[Mute]

One additional advantage to a FFP scope (I personally feel this is the most important benefit) is the ability to do hold over/under at any magnification. If cost is not an issue, the USO is a great choice.

[Prc329]

If the cash is there hit the USO. You may also want to look at IOR. They have a 2.5-10x42 FFP illuminated with 1/10 mil clicks. It should be close in quality to the NF but less money.

[aplinker]

I think if you're going USO I'd push you toward the higher magnification version of that scope. You won't be hurt for ranging since it's FFP. You'll have more flexibility if you ever decide to do 1000yds+ (though you can do that with 10X -- more is just nicer).

You could also choose the Sniper's Hide 3-18X scope from IOR. A LOT less money and a fantastic piece of glass (I was amazed).

[snaggletooth]

what is the wait time for ordering a USO? I just want standard mil clicks and a tactical mil reticle?

[rksimple]

One additional advantage to a FFP scope (I personally feel this is the most important benefit) is the ability to do hold over/under at any magnification.

This IS the most important benefit. Ranging is done when the rifle is rested, steady and high magnification isn't a problem. Holding off may need to be done at closer ranges, unsupported, etc. High magnification is a problem under those circumstances.

Wait time on USO is now 4-6 weeks. Get the reticle in the same unit of measure as the knobs. If you're going to get a mil reticle, get mil knobs.

[pklin1297]

Are all variable magnification USO scopes FFP?