Rolls brand scopes?

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Has anybody heard of these? I recently traded for a bolt rifle that came with one of these already mounted. It's a 2.5-10x50 illuminated model, and appears to be decent. The previous owner says he got it from a gunshow and paid (IIRC) $150-ish for it. He said it's held zero since sighting it in.

Anyway, I've done an Internet search on this brand of scopes and cannot find anything useful. I'm guessing that perhaps "Rolls" isn't a manufacturer, but perhaps a sporting goods outlet or company that just rebrands scopes with their company logo, but I really don't know. I figure that a $150 scope (particularly for a 50mm objective) is in the same class as a BSA or Barska, which is why I suspected this with the name "Rolls" clearly printed on it. I would think that a higher-prestige brand name would sell better with its own name on it.

[Dinosaur Jr]

My money is on that it's just another cheap Chinatek gunshow scope with crappy eye relief that's gonna give you a "scope-eye" shiner...

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My money is on that it's just another cheap Chinatek gunshow scope with crappy eye relief that's gonna give you a "scope-eye" shiner...

So - if I don't get a black eye after shooting it, do I win a prize?

[Dinosaur Jr]

So - if I don't get a black eye after shooting it, do I win a prize?

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You're probably right, it seems to indicate that it's of lesser quality, but like I said, the guy I bought it from claims that it's held zero for him (but I did notice that the rings were not evenly tightened down). I'll probably play with it for a while and see if it's decent, and if it disappoints, then I'll spring for something better.

I just find it curious that nobody has heard of these scopes and that even the Internet is silent about them. Upon further inspection of the pics that the seller sent me, the scope actually says "Roolls" on it, not "Rolls," with the two o's interlocking:



But even a google search of "roolls" reveals nothing.

[Dinosaur Jr]

LOL. If you can make it work for you, great. Me and my buddy's experience with these types of "bargain" scopes is that they seem to work decent...until they don't. Short eye relief is a common theme.

[FMJBT]

Found them listed under manufacturers here, but the website seems to be non functional as none of the links work:

http://www.opticadeportiva.com/roolls-m-12.html

It doesn't look like most chinese made scopes currently on the market, the eyepiece is different, especially the illumination knob. Looks similar to the Vortex Viper PST occular housing, but with a different knob and magnification ring. Scope tube looks similar to the Viper 4-16X50. I doubt it's a rebranded Vortex Viper PST or HS, but it wouldn't surprise me if it used some of the same components. Got any pics of the turrets on the Roolls scope? What kind of reticle does it have?

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FMJBT,

I'll post pics of the turrets later. The illumination has 5 settings for red, and 5 for green, but from what I could tell, the only thing that got illuminated is the center dot. The reticle is a modified duplex; The lines coming from 3:00, 6:00, and 9:00 are big fat lines, while the one originating from 12:00 is a thin hairline. Additionally, the x line and y line don't intersect in the middle like on a standard duplex - they all end at what I imagine is about 1 mil dot away and the center of the reticle is a minuscule dot. The dot lights up green or red depending on which way you turn the illumination knob.

[Dinosaur Jr]

Found them listed under manufacturers here, but the website seems to be non functional as none of the links work:

http://www.opticadeportiva.com/roolls-m-12.html

It doesn't look like most chinese made scopes currently on the market, the eyepiece is different, especially the illumination knob. Looks similar to the Vortex Viper PST occular housing, but with a different knob and magnification ring. Scope tube looks similar to the Viper 4-16X50. I doubt it's a rebranded Vortex Viper PST or HS, but it wouldn't surprise me if it used some of the same components. Got any pics of the turrets on the Roolls scope? What kind of reticle does it have?

Wow, how you unearthed "Roolls" reference on that web site is amazing. That must have taken a lot of work? Too bad all the links are dead. I've searched again with modified terms and still nothing...

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Yes, that was some impressive detective work there. In googlejitsu, I'm not even a white belt. More like cellophane...

Anyway - I keep meaning to post more pics of the scope, and will tonight.

and AKS-762: I've found that the eye relief on this scope is fairly long: I'd say a good 4-5 inches with generous leeway for people with different LOP. Some scopes I own require you to be right in that sweet spot to see through the scope clearly, and one centimeter forward or backward of that gives you a tunnel vision sight. So possibly this scope is decent.

[FMJBT]

Not sure how I managed to dig that one up actually. Google is wierd that way, I've noticed I'll get different search results depending on which browser I use (Internet Explorer vs. Google Chrome, etc.). Looking for images often yields results too that won't show up otherwise. I may have stumbled across that link by just finding an image of the Roolls logo, cant remember for sure though. That brand of scopes is definitely not easy to find though, might have been a very limited production run or maybe something marketed more for overseas maybe.

[rusty815]

just found it on a french site:

http://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/lunette-roolls-battue-1.25-4x26.html

no info tho, maybe its a french company?

[Dinosaur Jr]

just found it on a french site:

http://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/lunette-roolls-battue-1.25-4x26.html

no info tho, maybe its a french company?

Whoa!^^^Double-Secret Ninja Surf Slam on that French-web search...

Blast's looks pretty darn close to this one:

http://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/lunette-roolls-2.5-10x56-reticule-lumineux.html

Wow, 537,00 Euros appears to be about $665 USD. Coupled with the long eye-relief report, you may have really scored a sweet scope!!

[rusty815]

It certainly doesn't look that bad from the photo, I wouldn't call it chinese junk yet. Do you know how the reticle is? is it FFP or SFP?

[Dinosaur Jr]

It certainly doesn't look that bad from the photo, I wouldn't call it chinese junk yet. Do you know how the reticle is? is it FFP or SFP?

I think I may be revising that guess...