AR 15 Optics

[problemchild]

The pics are kind of crappy, they are cell phone pics. The USO SN8 is not available yet, but it will be SOON. That is one of the first prototypes in the pics.
True 1x with the option of a Daylight visible Red-dot in the RFP.
8x on the high end and a FFP reticle with the option to have the reticle lit too.

Please tell me they did NOT go with the push button illumination control. When I was looking for a scope I looked at USO and you could NOT push and hold to go from low-high or high to low illumination you had to click-click-click-click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click- 96 times to make a large adjustment. Just plain nuts if you ask me. A twist dial is so much more convenient.

[RuggedJay]

Learn how to use iron sights first. A2 carry handle iron sight with the elevation adjustment to be specific. No batteries needed and to shoot to 500. And did I mention cheap.

[DirtyDave]

Please tell me they did NOT go with the push button illumination control. When I was looking for a scope I looked at USO and you could NOT push and hold to go from low-high or high to low illumination you had to click-click-click-click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click--click-click- 96 times to make a large adjustment. Just plain nuts if you ask me. A twist dial is so much more convenient.

The first Push Button Rheostats had 64 settings. The new ones have 12 settings from High to Low.

[problemchild]

The first Push Button Rheostats had 64 settings. The new ones have 12 settings from High to Low.

12 is better but a dial is preferred. Can you push and hold to go to max/min or do you still have to click 12x in a row?

[DirtyDave]

12 is better but a dial is preferred. Can you push and hold to go to max/min or do you still have to click 12x in a row?

You have to push it each time. Its not really much of an issue because it remembers where you had it last set. If you like it on "8" then it stays on "8" when you turn it on, until you change it again.

[phaseshift]

I wanted to revive this thread because I'm still looking to purchase optics.

The USO SN4 is discontinued, what took it's place?

[FMJBT]

I'd go with the Bushnell SMRS 1-6.5X24 SFP with BTR-2 reticle. I think SFP is better on scopes with a wide magnification range like a 1-6.5X so you don't end up compromising function on one end of the magnification range (reticle either too thin, or too heavy). The BTR-2 has 10 mils of holdovers at max magnification, enough to get the 5.56 out to 800+ yards. At 1X, the large donut/dot setup should make for very rapid target aquisition much like a red dot sight.

http://www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/elite-tactical/smrs-1-6-5x-24mm-illuminated-btr-1-sfp

Here for $1120.63:

http://www.thedigitaloasis.com/BUS-ELITE-TACT-1-65X24-BTR-2-Bushnell-ET1624J_p_18044.html

[lavey29]

I wanted to revive this thread because I'm still looking to purchase optics.

The USO SN4 is discontinued, what took it's place?

USO has a new 1-4 coming out. Demos are already out now being tested. Should be added to the inventory in the near future but probably pricey like their other stuff. Have you checked Nightforce 1-4x24?

[Sheperd80]

+1 for the 1-4x illuminated scopes. When set at 1x my Burris Mtac feels fast and easy like a red dot. Probably not as fast in cqb if u wanna crunch milliseconds but ill never know the difference. And 4x is easily sufficient for a few hundred yards depending on your eyesight.

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[xmikex]

I'm in the same boat I have been researching scopes and can't decide what To go with. It's a standard 16 inch barrel and I just normally 55gr rounds. I use it mainly plinking and if need be small animals ( I live on a ranch) and home defense if need be. I normally shoot around 100-150 yards at the range. My question is what power scope should I be looking at? I like the small design I a red dot but I also want to be able to reach out father if need be. I'm not talking trying to beat any records just enough to compete with my buddies longer range rifles. Would I be able to see a target clearly with a 1x4 scope at say 300/400 yard range? Would a red dot with a magnifier be good enough to shoot out that far or is that pushing it?

I was originally looking at the leupold mark ar scope 3x9 but after reading some of the stuff mentioned here it seems like it might be over kill since I don't do far shooting and most of my shooting is messing around on my ranch shooting rocks on hills >=200 yards away.

Any thoughts

Also my dad just built a stock 20 inch barrel and is shooting the same ammo. With that length barrel what scope should he look into?

[PrimaryArms]

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-1-6X-Scope-with-ACSS-Reticle-p/pa1-6xrbd.htm

Dimitri

[johnny1290]

FWIW I always heard run the AR with irons before you get fancy. Maybe it's not your first.

I have a aimpoint pro and it works fine for up to 300 yards and my eyesight isn't the greatest. I could see why you'd like magnification though. These 1-4 scopes are looking pretty good!

[crufflers]

hahaha... welcome to my world... I find shopping for optics harder than trying to figure out which rifle to buy.

REALISTICALLY - What is the bulk of your shooting going to be? I know its not waiting for the zombies to come... Your optic should match the style of shooter you are, and the type of shooting you do...

This is why I own more than 1 optic for the same rifle, I couldn't make a decision on just one. There is some overlap in application here, but they all have their own strengths and weaknesses.

For the price of an Eotech/Mag combo, you can pretty much get an Eotech and a 1-4x scope... Call it a backup optic for the zombies if you want.

This is what I am leaning towards... I just got my flat top upper swapped in on my old A2 and my carry handle is history. My Aimpoint is mounted properly now. I also want to add a QD setup with a low power fixed or variable scope that I can swap in easily - the Aimpoint comes off easy enough. I just need to find a decent one piece QD mount and a compact 2-7 or 1-4 scope. I'd rather do that than have a swing-out magnifier... which wouldn't even fit on my rail space with a rear sight anyway.

[Justintoxicated]

Bushnell DMR :P I wish I had one for my AR, just cause. It really depends what you want to do with it though.

But thats shooting for groups, otherwise I'd get an acog 4x-6x for that range. However, I like more magnification if shooting for groups.

Honestly we don't have enough info on the rifle. Is this a mil-spec with 16" barrel?

[Droppin Deuces]

I'd have to recommend an ACOG. They are built to last you a lifetime and work well in CQB and are perfect for anything out to 600yds. They can be pricey but IMHO they can't be beat. I got an ACOG TA31RCO-M4 not to long ago and don't know if I could ever use anything else now.

FS

I had an RCO as well, and also thought I couldn't do without it. Until I got an ECOS Greatest multirole optic ever.