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  • ThemBastards
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1741

    Can muzzle flash damage a night vision scope/blind you?

    Would mounting a NV scope on a AR with a non-flash hiding compensator on it be a bad idea?

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    joelogic
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2008
    • 6593

    It would just go bright white and you would blink. Newer Milspec gear compensates for this.

    However I would not buy the one in your link, if you are in CA. We cant have NV rifle mounted with an illuminator and a magnifier.
    Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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    • #3
      ClarenceBoddicker
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 2783

      No, it won't damage a quality night vision scope, but the blooming can get pretty bright before the power to the image intensifier (tube) gets temporarily shut off. That can affect the night vision in your eye that is looking thru the scope.

      Don't waste your money buying junk cheap Russian commercial night vision scopes that only use one stage of a 3 tube cascade (3 tubes bonded together end to end) image intensifier assembly. The reason they come with a IR illuminator (illegal in CA with a weapon sight that has a reticle, but OK with a monocular or binoculars) is because they only have 1/3 the performance and need a IR light source or full moonlight to work at all. The Russian military night vision scopes like the 1PN34/1PN58 (1st gen) & 1PN51 (2nd gen) are good, as they use quality military tubes (cascade or MCP), not the incomplete junk commercial ones.

      The minimum you want to get for an AR is the battle proven & repairable AN/PVS-2 (1st gen) for around $500. If you have a flattop upper, you can still mount it with an Elcan mount/adapter. The next step up is the AN/PVS-4 (2nd gen) for around $1500. If you have lots to spend, get a Raptor or a AN/PVS-14. If you want more info, I posted about the PVS-1, 2, 3 & 4 in this section before. You can PM also, I know quite a bit about the early US night vision stuff. There is a lot of BS out there when it comes to the US military 1st & 2nd gen scopes.

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      • #4
        StraightShooter
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 2189

        Originally posted by ClarenceBoddicker
        No, it won't damage a quality night vision scope, but the blooming can get pretty bright before the power to the image intensifier (tube) gets temporarily shut off. That can affect the night vision in your eye that is looking thru the scope.

        Don't waste your money buying junk cheap Russian commercial night vision scopes that only use one stage of a 3 tube cascade (3 tubes bonded together end to end) image intensifier assembly. The reason they come with a IR illuminator (illegal in CA with a weapon sight that has a reticle, but OK with a monocular or binoculars) is because they only have 1/3 the performance and need a IR light source or full moonlight to work at all. The Russian military night vision scopes like the 1PN34/1PN58 (1st gen) & 1PN51 (2nd gen) are good, as they use quality military tubes (cascade or MCP), not the incomplete junk commercial ones.

        The minimum you want to get for an AR is the battle proven & repairable AN/PVS-2 (1st gen) for around $500. If you have a flattop upper, you can still mount it with an Elcan mount/adapter. The next step up is the AN/PVS-4 (2nd gen) for around $1500. If you have lots to spend, get a Raptor or a AN/PVS-14. If you want more info, I posted about the PVS-1, 2, 3 & 4 in this section before. You can PM also, I know quite a bit about the early US night vision stuff. There is a lot of BS out there when it comes to the US military 1st & 2nd gen scopes.
        This is all good info.

        I have a PVS-14 and a D-760 both with very high spec tubes. I have tried cheap stuff and you can't see anything good enough to shoot. Shooting things at night is an expensive hobby if you want to do it well.

        Brandon M.

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        • #5
          Nitehog
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 59

          Originally posted by ClarenceBoddicker
          No, it won't damage a quality night vision scope,

          Don't waste your money buying junk cheap Russian commercial night vision scopes

          There is a lot of BS out there
          Originally posted by StraightShooter
          This is all good info.

          I have tried cheap stuff and you can't see anything good enough to shoot. Shooting things at night is an expensive hobby if you want to do it well.
          Could not have said it better myself

          If it is available at Cabelas or Bass Pro for $500 it is probably not going to be a quality NV system. Kind of like the RRA AR-15 with a lower price tag than the Daniel Defense AR-15 on the wall of your LGS. You get what you pay for.
          http://www.nitehog.com/

          http://www.nvgstore.com/

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