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  • rg_1111@yahoo.com
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2003
    • 5720

    Question?

    I have some Burris rings on a picatinny style mount.
    Im looking for some better rings for picatinny rail mount with a Bushnell 3200 Elite.
    The problem I have with the Burris rings is there uneven when tighten down.
    There's no way to get an even gap on both side of the rings.
    Thanks for any help. rg_1111.
  • #2
    mike452
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1510

    What gap are you talking about? Are your rings parallel with the barrel?
    Any pictures?
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    • #3
      rg_1111@yahoo.com
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2003
      • 5720

      Sorry i dont have a picture now. I will take one later.
      The gap is uneven where the two rings clamp together.
      One side fits flush the other side has a one sixteenth gap.
      I want some rings that are flush on both sides. without gap.

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      • #4
        Stockton
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Oct 2007
        • 1316

        Hiya RG 1111!

        Hope all is well with that scope. My experience is with using Badger Ord or Leupold and cannnot say I have ever ran into that issue. Both those are a life long investments and a pricey one. Well worth the cash though. Hopefully someone can possibly give a better priced alternative. How much torq are you using just out of curiosity? 15inch pds is what I have always used.
        http://youtu.be/7Ii2kyQP-Is

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        • #5
          rg_1111@yahoo.com
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2003
          • 5720

          Not much torq. The luppy rings wont work with picatinny rail an AR-10 mount.
          I think weaver rings are for Picatinny style mount? Not sure?
          I dont usually buy cheap but Burris is all the had. I was in a hurry.
          If anyone knows what rings please let me know Thanks Ray.

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          • #6
            maxicon
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4661

            Do you mean that there's a gap on one side of the scope, and not on the other? If so, most rings are made this way, and what you want is to even up the gap on both sides as much as you can.

            If both sides were able to clamp flush, small changes in tube diameters would cause some scopes to be too loose in the clamps. Once the ring halves are tightened down all the way against the other halves, there's no more clamping force available by tightening the screws.

            To fix this, tighten slowly and watch the gaps to make sure they're even, then go around and tighten each screw, alternating sides. There's no problem with the gap being slightly uneven, though. I get mine close, then ignore the differences.

            If these are the Burris Xtreme rings, they don't need to be super tight, as they have a lot of gripping area.

            If you mean that one side of the ring mating surface has a gap at one end and not the other (say, a gap at the front and not at the back), this indicates a manufacturing problem.


            There are lots of good rings if you don't mind spending $100 or more. For less, you can try Warne Maxima or Tactical (good quality, Tactical has a better recoil lug than Maxima, but recoil lugs can be loose in the mount, non-QR mounts are pretty inexpensive), Leupold PRW or QRW (also good quality, but scope needs to be "snapped" into the rings, which leaves marks), or Burris Xtreme (solid, not QR, wider than most, which can limit scope adjustment ranges).

            I have multiple pairs of Leupold QRW, and I like them for the money (I usually buy them used). I don't baby my scopes, but I still cringe when I have to snap them in. My Warne Maxima aren't bad, but I prefer the Leupolds except for the snap thing. I haven't mounted anything in my Burris Xtreme yet.
            Last edited by maxicon; 12-22-2007, 1:07 PM.
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            • #7
              mike452
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1510

              I have not had problems with rings not fitting. I have the cheap stuff from Leupold PRW to Badger and they fit on all my rails including AR10, AR15, FAL, and M14.
              Are you mounting the rings diectly on the AR-10 rail or on top of a raiser?
              Most of the rings out there only have one crosss slot, I don't see how any of them not fitting. Get a set of Leupold PRW and see.
              I think it's a problem with your rings and not weaver or picatinny.


              oh yeah. if your gap is at where the two halves clamp together then it's normal.
              Last edited by mike452; 12-22-2007, 1:08 PM.
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              • #8
                rg_1111@yahoo.com
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2003
                • 5720

                Yes, maxicon.
                Do you mean that there's a gap on one side of the scope rings. And not the other side.

                The rings are cheap. They wont gap even no matter what i do.
                When i try to get both sides even. One Allen screw wont even go in the threads. S there's a big gap one one side and the other side is almost flush.
                Yes its a extra mount for the carry handle. The carry handle mount is not the problem.

                I have herd that you want the GAP even and both screws tightend torqed even also. Is this true?

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57087

                  Originally posted by rg_1111@yahoo.com
                  I have herd that you want the GAP even and both screws tightend torqed even also.
                  Is this true?
                  Yes.

                  If you do that, the gaps will match on both sides.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #10
                    PistolPete75
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 5230

                    yep, use some sort of a tactical style ring like tps, badger, or seekins. badger and seekins stuff are both top end in my opinion.

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                    • #11
                      rg_1111@yahoo.com
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 5720

                      Yup,
                      You guys are right cheap rings are what you pay for. There No way these Burris rings will gap even. They are so far off it's not funny.
                      I herd people on this forum talk good about Burris products.
                      Rings are JUNK. $%$#@@#$%$

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                      • #12
                        PistolPete75
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 5230

                        if i were you, best buy for the money is Seekins Precision rings. if money is no issue go buy Badger.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57087

                          Originally posted by rg_1111@yahoo.com
                          There No way these Burris rings will gap even. They are so far off it's not funny.
                          I think it's the installer.
                          I have never had a problem with getting rings to gap evenly.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            rg_1111@yahoo.com
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 5720

                            Well ar15barrels,
                            If the owner of the Antioch Armory can't get the gap right. He's been doing them for years. I think a lot of members here would back Brian's credibility. I would say it's the Rings. But you must be smarter than both of us so what's the Secret.
                            Or let me tell you the secret Badger Rings. Or a ring maker that can make rings.
                            ar15barrels i will sell you the rings for $25. shipped you can make them work.

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                            • #15
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57087

                              Originally posted by rg_1111@yahoo.com
                              Or let me tell you the secret Badger Rings. Or a ring maker that can make rings.
                              ar15barrels i will sell you the rings for $25. shipped you can make them work.
                              I'll take the badger rings for $25 shipped.
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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