Bushnell Holosights anyone?

[Satex]

Does anyone own any of the Bushnell Holosights?

http://www.bushnell.com/general/riflescopes_holosight.cfm?section=Hunting

I have seen several references to that suggest they license their Holosight technology from EoTech, but I am not 100% sure of this.

Does anyone own one of their holosights. If so, thoughts, impressions?

[Timberland]

The bushnell one use to be linked from eotech website, so most likley there made the same but not as tough. + they dont have te hard outer plastic shell.

[blkA4alb]

We had a couple come in at work. Since I do inventory I get to play with all the new toys before they get put out into the store.

I was impressed with the quality. I had my coworker do a double blind test by holding them close enough to my eye I couldn't see which was the EoTech and which was the Bushnell and I couldn't tell the difference between the reticles. The buttons felt nicer on the EoTech though.

However, the price difference between the EoTech and Bushnell isn't that great. Spend the extra couple of bucks and get the EoTech.

[OpticsPlus]

EOTech makes the holosights but they are branded for Bushnell. We have the best prices on them so send me a PM if you are looking to buy .

[BB63Squid]

I have one it on and it and happy with it so far. 1000+ rnds with and it is holding up fine. Only issues I have is with what type of battery it takes, PITA to find.

[UBFRAGD]

I have used a Bushnell Holosight XLP on my general purpose Rem 870 since the day it came out. If you have a Rem 870/1100 and want a close-to-the-bore red dot, there is nothing better. This sight is close to revolutionary--integrated for the Rem, accurate, easy to use, and fairly cheap for what it is. I sighted mine in with a 12-gauge laser boresighter initially, (go ahead and laugh if you will), did some patterning work with different loads, did targets at 25/50yrds with slugs, and with one single slight windage adjustment, I was hitting things with such a greater degree of consistency and accuracy I can't ever imagine going back to the bead or ordinary tru-glos. The batteries are 2 AAA's so you know to always carry backups because that is a weak battery "platform". What's funny is that after I used the XLP for about a year, even if the batteries died I was still able to use the "screen" for pretty accurate shots until I could replace the batteries. The reticle brightness adjustment range is large and really useful from desert-bright sunshine to late nights on the ranch plinking at star-lit bottles. Makes me think I should buy an 1100/xlp just so the 870 has family in the safe......

Those who know me know that I am a very demanding tester of consumer items and I should be writing for Consumer Reports Gun Edition @ $180,000/year+perks. In other words I can break anything without trying. One time after packing my Rem870 away I went and did 26 miles of jarring and harsh off roading. The rifle case got the heck beat out of it. I took the shotgun out when I got home and the XLP was making the most horrible loose-glass rattling sound I have ever heard outside of an earthquake. But it worked fine!! I used it for a while and sent it in for repair. Bushnell sent me a NIB XLP on day 22. Nice!

If you're a video gamer and have a Rem870/1100 the choice is clear, XLP.

[maxicon]

The Bushnell Holosight and the Eotech use the same holographic technologies and are reportedly made in the same plant. Note that there are 2 generations of Bushnell Holosight now - the Eotech style, and the XLP, which is much more futuristic looking. From a reticle perspective, there's very little difference between the two except for max brightness.

Here are the key differences:

- The Eotech uses their Rev F technology, which greatly extends battery life and gives a much wider range of reticle brightness, including more brightness at the high end, and has improved buttons. The Bushnells appear to use the pre-Rev F technology still, with shorter battery life and less brightness range.

- The Eotech N battery version is speced at 200 hours life at the 12 (of 20) setting, and the AA version is speced at 600 hours life (alkaline) and 1000 hours life (lithium) at the 12 (of 20) setting. There's no data I can find on battery life for the 553 that uses CR123 batteries. Bushnell's N battery version is speced at 40 hours life at the 12 (of 20) setting, and the AAA versions are speced at 100 hours life at the 10 (of 15) setting.

- The Eotech has a protective hood. The Bushnell doesn't, and can't be retrofitted easily, though the hood is available as a replacement part through Eotech.

- The higher-end models of the Eotech have night vision compatible settings in addition to the regular settings. None of the Bushnells have this.

- The Eotechs are available using N or AA batteries, and the new 553 uses CR123 version. The Bushnells are available using N batteries in the model that looks like an Eotech, and had an AA version that's not available in their current catalog. The Bushnell XLP models use AAA batteries.

For all of them, if you use lithium batteries, you dramatically increase battery life, especially at low temperatures.

[Clodbuster]

I have both the Holosight and the Eotech and they are the same except for the hood on the Eotech that you pay an extra $100 for (I've taken both apart). Don't know how much additional protection the hood is, since I've dropped the Holosight a few times, and it's built like a tank.

Clod

Does anyone own any of the Bushnell Holosights?

http://www.bushnell.com/general/riflescopes_holosight.cfm?section=Hunting

I have seen several references to that suggest they license their Holosight technology from EoTech, but I am not 100% sure of this.

Does anyone own one of their holosights. If so, thoughts, impressions?

[jandmtv]

i have a bushnell xlp on my ar15, i love it, not worth the extra money for a eotech imho.

[Solidmch]

I have on on my SU-16. It made me like shooting the little crappy riffle. Before I put it on I was going to sell it. Now I will keep it for my daughters to shoot when they get old enough.

[maxicon]

Yep, mine lives on my SU16, and everybody likes it. I keep thinking I should put it on an AR, but it really is perfect as a fast, light plinker.

[supersonic]

Talked to C.S. @ L3 (EOTech), and was told that they build the holosights for Bushnell. However, the EOTechs , the guy told me, have more "high-tech" electronics built into them, plus they are built to withstand much more abuse than the Bushnell. That's why "L.E. & Military have contracts exclusively with the EOTech. There is more built into their exterior adjustments as well"- L3 COM Tech. I'm sure the Bushnell is fine for the everyday range plinker, as they are made BY L3, + Bushnell's scopes (even the ones that come from overseas) have always seemed quite good to me, plus their prices are usually a bargain.

[Clodbuster]

Sounds like you reached customer SALES, instead of customer SERVICE?

If I was trying sell basicaly the same thing for 30% more, I would have a good pitch to justify it as well.

BTW, Our government buys $5 hammers for $10

Clod

Talked to C.S. @ L3 (EOTech), and was told that they build the holosights for Bushnell. However, the EOTechs , the guy told me, have more "high-tech" electronics built into them, plus they are built to withstand much more abuse than the Bushnell. That's why "L.E. & Military have contracts exclusively with the EOTech. There is more built into their exterior adjustments as well"- L3 COM Tech. I'm sure the Bushnell is fine for the everyday range plinker, as they are made BY L3, + Bushnell's scopes (even the ones that come from overseas) have always seemed quite good to me, plus their prices are usually a bargain.

[maxicon]

There's some accuracy there, if no detail.

The Eotech electronics are encapsulated, or "potted", to improve shock resistance. The Bushnells don't specify if they are or not, but presumably would say if they were. As I said in a post above, the Eotechs have the Ref F circuitry, which greatly extends both battery life and brightness levels compared to the Bushnells. Both of these are worth extra money in the right circumstances.

I can't find a spec on total adjustment range of the Bushnells, but the Eotech is +/-40 MOA in each axis (80 MOA total), with 10 MOA per revolution. The Bushnell XLPs only spec 15 MOA per revolution, not the total MOA adjustment.

[Clodbuster]

The Holosight's electronics are also encapsulated in some sort of epoxy-like material and is not accessible without breaking the coating (I didn't try as that wasn't the problem I was fixing with the Holosight. The material is a different color in the Holosight versus the Eotech. I do not know if this is due to age, change to the bill of materials or some "mil-spec" requirement -- My Holosight is 6 years old and the Eotech is 2 years old.

The reason I opened up the Eotech was for reference to repair my Holosight, and also to see if I can do something to fix the battery drain issue I was seeing in the Eotech (which BTW, is a rev. F.) Since the electronics were all encapsulated, I ended up not doing anything, but taking them apart was interesting.

Clod

There's some accuracy there, if no detail.

The Eotech electronics are encapsulated, or "potted", to improve shock resistance. The Bushnells don't specify if they are or not, but presumably would say if they were. As I said in a post above, the Eotechs have the Ref F circuitry, which greatly extends both battery life and brightness levels compared to the Bushnells. Both of these are worth extra money in the right circumstances.

I can't find a spec on total adjustment range of the Bushnells, but the Eotech is +/-40 MOA in each axis (80 MOA total), with 10 MOA per revolution. The Bushnell XLPs only spec 15 MOA per revolution, not the total MOA adjustment.