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  • Agent Akin
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    • Oct 2009
    • 564

    My new Eotech MPO-II

    Greetings all!

    So at the OC gunshow I picked up an Eotech MPO-II. It was from a dealer with a very large and nice booth, with display cases full,of high-end optics... all the major varieties. In other words, it did not seem to be a fly-by-night operation. Despite this, I called up the EOtech counterfeit PDF on my iPad and went over it against the sight... I explained that I didn't doubt them or their integrity, but that with a purchase of this magnitude and the ease with which even reputable dealers can fall victim to counterfeit goods, I just needed to double check. They were cool with it, though they did state that they receive their products directly from the factory.

    The point of all that is, I'm as sure as I can be that I bought a legit Eotech sight.

    I do have a couple of questions, though, so if anyone who is familiar with these can help out, I'd appreciate it.

    The sight component of the MPO-II is the "EXPS3". However, it's my understanding that there is an EXPS3-0, -1, -2, -3, and -4... how can I tell which one I have? I suspect it's the latest version, as the manufacture date, according to the sticker on the back, is September 2011; but there are no markings on the sight itself that indicate what model number it is. Is this common with Eotech sights?

    The included manual is for the "EXPS3" sight, and is dated January 2010, so it's an old one. It indicates that there are two reticle options, one with a single dot and one with two dots. According to the Eotech website, the reticle has four dots in a line, and indeed mine does. So, obviously the manual is obsolete... is this any cause for concern, that this new unit has such an old manual?

    The website doesn't even offer manuals for the EXPS series, just the XPS.

    I plan on calling Eotech on Monday, but I figured that if I'm wondering about this, it's entirely possible that others have had the same questions and may have already figured it all out...

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Agent Akin; 11-27-2011, 2:55 AM.
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  • #2
    MrPlink
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    • Mar 2010
    • 12532

    Is the reticle a little fuzzy/blurry? If so, its a real eotech.
    The fakes use a LED, not a laser so their reticles look "perfect"
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    • #3
      Agent Akin
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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      • Oct 2009
      • 564

      Originally posted by MrPlink
      Is the reticle a little fuzzy/blurry? If so, its a real eotech.
      The fakes use a LED, not a laser so their reticles look "perfect"
      Aye, it's a wee bit fuzzy, especially the brighter it gets... I'm fairly certain it's legit...
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      • #4
        MrPlink
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        • Mar 2010
        • 12532

        100% legit, worry not as no clones will do that
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        • #5
          Agent Akin
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          • Oct 2009
          • 564

          Originally posted by MrPlink
          100% legit, worry not as no clones will do that
          Cool...

          Still not sure how to psoitiviely ID the model of the sight, as it doesn't say, and the manual is old and doesn't match what the sight has...
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          • #6
            Exile Machine
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            • Oct 2009
            • 9551

            Is the dealer listed on EOTech's website as an authorized distributor?
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            • #7
              Agent Akin
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              • Oct 2009
              • 564

              Originally posted by Exile Machine
              Is the dealer listed on EOTech's website as an authorized distributor?
              Hmmm... yeah, looks like they are. Like I said, though, I was pretty certain it was a legit product, just was curious about other stuff...
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              • #8
                OpticsPlanet
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Apr 2009
                • 2129

                An EXPS3 has a quick release base - an EXPS2 does not, nor does the XPS3.
                An EXPS3 is night vision compatible, an EXPS2 is as well. An XPS3 is not.

                An EXPS3-0 has a 65MOA ring with 1MOA aiming dot.
                An EXPS3-2 has a 65MOA ring with two 1MOA aiming dots.
                An EXPS3-4 has a 54MOA ring with four 1MOA aiming dots.

                The XPS3 is available in only two reticles -
                An XPS3-0 has a 65MOA ring with 1MOA aiming dot
                An XPS3-0 has a 65MOA ring with two 1MOA aiming dots.

                The EXPS3 and the EXPS2 have the controls on the side, the XPS3 has the controls on the rear.

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                • #9
                  SuperSet
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 9048

                  It sounds like you have the EXPS 3-4 model then since I have the same one. It works great in front a magnifier, although I prefer more than 3X magnification.

                  You'll probably need this diagram since I couldn't find it published on L3's website anymore. It describes the subtensions between each of the BDC dots in MOA so if you plug your ammo into a ballistics calculator, you'll see how close the BDC dots are to your load.

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                  • #10
                    Agent Akin
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 564

                    So, I guess it's a EXPS3-4...

                    Now I just wonder why the manual seems to be for the -0 and -2...

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                    • #11
                      SuperSet
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 9048

                      Mine was the same. No instructions on how to use the BDC reticule. Luckily, I had the EOTech 557 before and the EXPS 3-4 has the same reticule.

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                      • #12
                        Agent Akin
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 564

                        Originally posted by SuperSet
                        Mine was the same. No instructions on how to use the BDC reticule. Luckily, I had the EOTech 557 before and the EXPS 3-4 has the same reticule.
                        Hmmm... I'll have to check if I can find a manual for the 557 then...
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                        • #13
                          Agent Akin
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                          • Oct 2009
                          • 564

                          Originally posted by Agent Akin
                          Hmmm... I'll have to check if I can find a manual for the 557 then...
                          aaaaand my Google Fu is not strong enough to succeed. Anyone know where I could find a manual for a 557? Or better yet, an EXPS3-4?
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                          • #14
                            SuperSet
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 9048

                            Mike Kroll from EOtech confirmed that there is no manual for the EXPS3-4, specifically. They only have the EXPS3 series manual, dated Jan 2011. He also stated that the BDC dots were 300, 400, 500 and 600. With my ammo and rifle, the first shot should be zeroed at 250y.

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