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  • accordingtoome
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 905

    Best Long range Optic for these 3 price ranges.??

    Greetings all,
    I have been thinking a lot lately about upgrading my bushnell scope to something better. I think i paid $90.00 or something for it. It holds its zero pretty good at 100 yards. But i would like to upgrade so.

    Whats the best Long Range Scope for these three price ranges

    $200-300 range
    $300-450 range
    $450-700ish range


    I know im going to get the "just save up for something better" post a few times but im just asking, if you HAD to but a scope in these 3 price ranges what would you get? Also if you have any links to some good deals please PM me as i am looking to buy.

    Thank you all for your time
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    Timberwolf
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2004
    • 6275

    Except for the Super Sniper line starting at 300.00 there is really nothing else that one could reasonably consider a long range optic in your listed price ranges unless you could possibly find a used Leupy Mk4 or Vari-X III LR in the 700.00 to 800.00 range.
    I'm only smiling at you while you talk to me because it's hilarious that you really think I give a crap about you.

    As I've gotten older I thought I was gaining patience, then I realized I simply don't give a crap.

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    • #3
      accordingtoome
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 905

      Originally posted by Timberwolf
      Except for the Super Sniper line starting at 300.00 there is really nothing else that one could reasonably consider a long range optic in your listed price ranges unless you could possibly find a used Leupy Mk4 or Vari-X III LR in the 700.00 to 800.00 range.
      I knew you would say that Im just saying. Timberwolf, if someone broke into your house and stole all your optics, and you had $500 to buy a new scope. what would you get.

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      • #4
        rksimple
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2006
        • 6257

        Originally posted by Timberwolf
        Except for the Super Sniper line starting at 300.00 there is really nothing else that one could reasonably consider a long range optic in your listed price ranges unless you could possibly find a used Leupy Mk4 or Vari-X III LR in the 700.00 to 800.00 range.
        I beg to differ. The Bushnell 3200 10x mildot is EXCELLENT for the price. 100 moa of internal adjustment, repeatable, robust, etc. Glass on par with the SS and better turrets. They can be had for around $180 brand new. I've been using one for a while now, even took a PR2 class with it. It works VERY well.
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        • #5
          Timberwolf
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2004
          • 6275

          I hadn't thought about them (dummy me since I just bought one for a .22 practice rifle). So in that range we could say SS and Bushnell 3200 10X40 or maybe even a Mueller I've read some good reviews on them from Mike.

          My only thoughts on the Bushnel would be it being a 10X - which at 1K could get taxing. With a SS you have the options of either 10X, 16X or 20X - and if this was going to be a dedicated LR scope I'd probably go with the 16X. Mueller is variable in the 3.5 - 10 and 4-15 range I believe.

          I think though we should qualify the term long range - in most circles 100 - 300 is short range, 300 - 600 is mid range, and 600 - 1000 is long range. If we're only talking <600 that might open it up some.
          I'm only smiling at you while you talk to me because it's hilarious that you really think I give a crap about you.

          As I've gotten older I thought I was gaining patience, then I realized I simply don't give a crap.

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          • #6
            rksimple
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2006
            • 6257

            In the 700 "ish" lineup, the IOR 2.5-10x42 FFP with the mp8 reticle is hard to beat. It comes in at around $770 from Liberty Optics. Also, the loopy here is pretty good.
            GAP Team Shooter 5

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            • #7
              rksimple
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2006
              • 6257

              Originally posted by Timberwolf
              I hadn't thought about them (dummy me since I just bought one for a .22 practice rifle). So in that range we could say SS and Bushnell 3200 10X40 or maybe even a Mueller I've read some good reviews on them from Mike.

              My only thoughts on the Bushnel would be it being a 10X - which at 1K could get taxing. With a SS you have the options of either 10X, 16X or 20X - and if this was going to be a dedicated LR scope I'd probably go with the 16X. Mueller is variable in the 3.5 - 10 and 4-15 range I believe.

              I think though we should qualify the term long range - in most circles 100 - 300 is short range, 300 - 600 is mid range, and 600 - 1000 is long range. If we're only talking <600 that might open it up some.
              More than 10x would be nice for 1K, but for sihouettes, steel, etc, it performs acceptably. For something like 1k f class, I'd want lots more mag.
              GAP Team Shooter 5

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              • #8
                wildcard
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 4916

                $300 range.. Super Sniper 10X Mil Dot without a doubt.

                $500 range.. Bushnell 4200 6 - 24X Mil Dot.

                $700 range.. IOR Tactical 10X MP8.

                I like 10X and I like IOR.. so you know what I'd vote for. 10X is great for hitting targets from 100 - 1000 yds.. but it's not good for trying to spot your shots on paper at anything beyond 200 yds. Depends on what you want to do with your rifle.

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                • #9
                  PistolPete75
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 5230

                  yep, all of the above are good scopes that offer alot of bang for the dollar.

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                  • #10
                    accordingtoome
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 905

                    I would really like to see that paper at 200 yards. Its a long walk to change that target.

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                    • #11
                      maxicon
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4661

                      You didn't say what you consider long-range. Many people here consider 600-1000 yards as long-range, while others call it 100 yards! You also didn't say if you prefer variable or fixed, or whether tactical features are important.

                      For an affordable, variable power upgrade to your Bushnell that would work well at 100-200 yards, there are quite a few choices. Now, these aren't necessarily going to impress the optics snobs, but they're going to have clear glass, solid construction, and good support, and they'll leave you plenty of money for ammo.

                      Here's a random sampling - there are plenty of others.

                      Under $300 - Leupold VXI, Burris Fullfield II, Weaver V series

                      Under $450 - Leupold VXII, Nikon Monarch, Leupold Mk2, Burris Fullfield II

                      Under $700 - Leupold VXIII, Nikon Monarch/ Monarch Gold, Meopta Meostar, Burris Black Diamond/Euro Diamond, etc.

                      For example, here's a Nikon Monarch 6.5-20x40 illuminated mil-dot scope for $475 that would cover just about any longer range need:


                      There are plenty of decent scopes out there for relatively reasonable prices if you're not heading into the sandbox or worried about having the correct tacticool brand name.
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                      • #12
                        accordingtoome
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 905

                        Originally posted by maxicon
                        You didn't say what you consider long-range. Many people here consider 600-1000 yards as long-range, while others call it 100 yards! You also didn't say if you prefer variable or fixed, or whether tactical features are important.

                        For an affordable, variable power upgrade to your Bushnell that would work well at 100-200 yards, there are quite a few choices. Now, these aren't necessarily going to impress the optics snobs, but they're going to have clear glass, solid construction, and good support, and they'll leave you plenty of money for ammo.

                        Here's a random sampling - there are plenty of others.

                        Under $300 - Leupold VXI, Burris Fullfield II, Weaver V series

                        Under $450 - Leupold VXII, Nikon Monarch, Leupold Mk2, Burris Fullfield II

                        Under $700 - Leupold VXIII, Nikon Monarch/ Monarch Gold, Meopta Meostar, Burris Black Diamond/Euro Diamond, etc.

                        For example, here's a Nikon Monarch 6.5-20x40 illuminated mil-dot scope for $475 that would cover just about any longer range need:


                        There are plenty of decent scopes out there for relatively reasonable prices if you're not heading into the sandbox or worried about having the correct tacticool brand name.
                        1000 yards would be sweet,

                        thats some good logic there bro, variable would be cool and if i can get some good tac features thats always a plus too. as im new to the whole optic game i have no idea what tac features are hahaha..

                        Brand names are o.k. but i have no problem going with something thats not.

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                        • #13
                          xYourLocalAR15x
                          Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 409

                          I bought a brand new VXII for 369 shipped... its a 6-18x-40
                          zooms in pretty close

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                          • #14
                            Gunner1
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 624

                            This may not be the most popular answer but I REALLY REALLY like my two Millett TRS-1 scopes. I admit that one had to go back for replacement due to a lense coating issue but they responded quickly with great customer service. The TRS-1 is a 4-16x50 with the target knobs and most current tacticool features. The real bonus is incredibly clear optics. My favorite under $750.00 scope. I currently own two Leupold Mark 4's and two Millets, I just sold my Bushnell 3200 Elite 10x and I have the Burris Fullfield II tactical if anyone wants one. I know some people here are gonna get bent out of shape but the Millet is my favorite off all the above. My leupold MK4 3.5-10x M3 with TMR is maybe in some circumstances have a little better resolution at 300+ yards but it is definately not worth the $800.00 difference in cost. The millets can be bought for around $300.00 and worth every cent.

                            Gunner

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                            • #15
                              accordingtoome
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 905

                              Millett huh.. the one i saw in person i did not like to much. when pulling the bolt back my fingers kept hitting that knob by the eyepiece. I'll look at them again though.

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