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  • thunderbolt
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 437

    My Scope is Broken...

    So I went out to the range to test my first reloads of 30-06 and was really excited about it but after 5 rnds I didn't see any on the paper @ 100 yrds.

    Flashback... Last week when my dad was at my house helping me to reload my shells he was sitting on my $5 shop stool holding my 30-06 when it broke sending him to the floor. It was funny until I realized my rifle went to the floor as well...

    I reset my targets to 25 yrds and finally hit paper but was 10" left and 4" low. No amount of adjustment would change the POI although the groups were still consistant w/ factory ammo. The scope is a Tasco World Class 3-9X40 that my dad mounted on the rifle when he gave it to me on my 14th B-Day. It's always been really accurate but a little tempermental on eye relief. I called Tasco because they supposedly had a lifetime warranty on it but Bushnell bought them out in 2002 and they do not honor Tasco warranties before 2002. They did give me the contact info on a company that might service it and they did offer me a promotional pricing on a new Tasco that would cut the cost in half.

    I don't have the money right now to replace the scope with a decent one and the delimma I have is should I buy a discounted Tasco now so I can have a scope on the rifle or save my pennies for a better scope? What would you do?
    Last edited by thunderbolt; 10-25-2011, 4:12 PM.
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  • #2
    FLIGHT762
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 3071

    I would save your money and buy a Vortex brand scope. They have scopes that compete in price with the Tascos. The difference is if you break your Vortex like you did with the Tasco scope, they will replace it. They have one of the best warranties in the business.

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    • #3
      Sunday
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2010
      • 5574

      Originally posted by FLIGHT762
      I would save your money and buy a Vortex brand scope. They have scopes that compete in price with the Tascos. The difference is if you break your Vortex like you did with the Tasco scope, they will replace it. They have one of the best warranties in the business.
      How long do they take to Replace/ repair the scope?
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      • #4
        rsrocket1
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 2768

        Did you try to start from scratch and remount the scope and set it up to neutral?

        It may have simply slipped its mount.

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        • #5
          Iloveguns
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 868

          IF you are using different loads that can effect your POI.

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          • #6
            FMJBT
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 4888

            Originally posted by rsrocket1
            Did you try to start from scratch and remount the scope and set it up to neutral?

            It may have simply slipped its mount.
            I'd start here as well, especially if it's a windage adjustable rear mount like the Leupold and Redfield mounts. If ther grouping is still consistent, the scope is possibly still good, but just pushed to one side far enough that it's internal windage cannot compensate for it. A windage adjustable mount will have a low profile screw head on either side of the base at the rear ring like this:

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            • #7
              thunderbolt
              Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 437

              Originally posted by rsrocket1
              Did you try to start from scratch and remount the scope and set it up to neutral?

              It may have simply slipped its mount.
              The rings are Weaver rings with no windage adjustment built in. I was looking online last night on how to mount a scope but I've never done it before and don't have the tools to do it properly it seems. Any ideas? Also if it had just slipped its mounts wouldn't the POI adjust still even if it wouldn't adjust back to zero? I tried all sorts of adjustments but the POI stayed the same no matter how many clicks right/left up/down. Also I noticed that the crosshairs appear slightly canted but I can't be sure until I get a gun vice.

              Originally posted by Iloveguns
              IF you are using different loads that can effect your POI.
              As soon as I decided that there must be something off (it shouldn't have taken me 5 rnds because the thing is usually dead on) I switched to some Hornady commercial ammo that I've used a lot with very good results. When those didn't hit paper at 25 yrds I knew something was wrong. I didn't shoot any of my reloads after the first 5.
              "Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people.
              So meet me at the mission at midnight we'll divy up there.
              Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people.
              Well I have the pistols so I'll keep the pesos. Yeah that seems fair."

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              • #8
                FLIGHT762
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 3071

                It sounds like something got tweaked in the fall. It could be the scope or it could be the mounts/rings. You could try a new set of rings, but it could be the scope tube got bent.
                You could try a new set of rings. If that doesn't do it, you could try the Leupold windage adjustable base / rings that FMJBT showed you. That can cure windage issues. I use them on a few hunting rifles. All of this will only be a guess until you can determine if the damage was to the scope or mounts.

                10" left at 25 yards is quite a bit off. I've had rifles that have been dropped or fallen hard and had to be re-zeroed.

                God luck with it.

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                • #9
                  FLIGHT762
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3071

                  Originally posted by Sunday
                  How long do they take to Replace/ repair the scope?
                  I don't have that answer for you. I spoke to the manager at Vortex about their warranty. I was told that they would even replace a scope that had been accidentally damaged. This was a question I had for them due to a broken Burris scope I had recently damaged.

                  I had a Burris Full Field II that had gotten the main tube snapped in a hard fall. Burris would not repair it (even at my expense). The best they could do for me was to give me a coupon for a new one that was $20.00 less than I could buy another one for. Even a Leupold could be repaired for $90.00 for a new main tube (I had called them about a main tube repair).

                  I made my decision right then. No more Burris scopes. I don't mind paying for damage that I had done, but not to even have that option didn't sit well with me. Burris has a good warranty for factory defects, but not for accidental breakage.

                  Vortex warranties their optics even for accidental breakage.

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                  • #10
                    FMJBT
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 4888

                    If the scopes windage and elevation adjustment don't move the point of impact at all anymore, your scope is probably screwed. Sounds like the erector spring has probably popped out. It's a small leaf or coil spring inside the scope tube that places opposing pressure on the erector tube to keep it in contact with the elevation and windage adjustment knobs. If Bushnell is not doing warranty repair/replacement work on the older Tasco products, you will most likely need to get a new scope.
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                    • #11
                      drey70
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 55

                      Maybe replace rings is there ne chance ribgs could have bent or rail shift happend to me

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