Aimpoint CompM4 vs. EOTech 552

[AYOxITZxACE]

Which do YOU think is better and why???
I can't decide on which one to get!!!
(For use with an M4 Carbine style rifle)

[thegrayham]

Man thats almost like 9mm vs .45. Anyway I'm an Aimpoint fan but have used and would gladly use either.

It really comes down to me liking the way the Aimpoint works better but I also feel like the Aimpoint is just that much more rugged (not that I will ever test this) and the longer battery life is nice too. I would say shoot both if you can (which can be hard to do I know).

[ChrisTKHarris]

Aimpoint.

I have a CompM4s and an EXPS. I much prefer the Aimpoint for the battery, ruggedness and clarity of the reticle

[Outta Control]

Aimpoint

[wizdumb]

It's not apples to apples, but I greatly prefer my EOTech XPS over the CompM4s (recently sold).
My EOTech was smaller, lighter, cheaper, had a better reticle, bigger field of vision, and absolute co-witness with my iron sights. The CompM4s only has lower 1/3 co-witness, but you can get absolute if you pay another $100+ for the Larue mount. That pushes the price close to 200-300 more than my EoTech. For that money, I'll keep some spare batteries on hand.

If you care about the "tactical" stealthiness of it all, the EOTech does not emit any light towards your target, but the Aimpoint does. Personally, I could care less about whether or not the paper/steel targets I'm shooting can see me. In any extreme defensive situation where I might have to actually shoot at something that can see me... Well, the muzzle flash will be their next clue.

[vintagearms]

I was a diehard EOTech user from the original Bushnell Holosight to the new XPS. I recently purchased the Aimpoint PRO and found the reticle of the EOtech too busy compared and found if you shoot both eyes open, the Aimpoint is just as quick to get on target and has about the same field of view. Battery life is way better, the reticle is cleaner, especially if you have vision issues, and to adjust intensity up or down is much easier on the Aimpoint.
I dont co-witness and honestly cant figure out why anyone would use a dot optic and ruin their field of vision looking thru iron sights at the same time, so that is a non issue with me.

[carnelianbay]

To the OP: what were you trained on? I'd go with that.

[AYOxITZxACE]

What was I trained on? Trijicon ACOG (LOL!) But I'm talking about a REASONABLY PRICED OPTIC HERE...LOL! Believe me, if the damn ACOG wasn't 2x the price, this wouldn't even be a thread right now. One of the reasons why I ask is because I wanna get a gereral idea of which is preferred, JIC I don't like the one I decide to go with. (I'm thinkin' sell, b4 buy) Just another tool to base my judgment off of.

[wizdumb]

See if you can find a store that has them all in stock (Cabela's maybe?) so you can check them out for yourself in person. It'll make a huge difference.

[AYOxITZxACE]

I've seen someone with an Aimpoint CompM4s at Angeles Shooting Range and I asked him why he chose that and he said when he was in the Army (SMH. It's a Marine thing) That that's what he had. I looked thru it and I must say, it did look pretty crisp. The only reason why I would lean more towards an EOTech is the MOA of the reticle (EOTech is 1 MOA dot/65 MOA bezel vs. Aimpoint 2 MOA) It's not really that much for a CQB scope, but still. It's the little differences that matter in the end. Plus the EOTech 557 has a BDC that I haven't seen Aimpoints with.

[wizdumb]

Other things that come to mind.

The Aimpoint dot is certainly more crisp than the EOTech, which means that you'll probably have better precision at long range, but the trade off is being able to find that tiny dot at close range if you have to bring your rifle up fast and take a shot. The EOTech reticle is better for that, in my opinion. Again, this is a non-magnified red dot optic, which seems primarily designed to support close range.

Because it has a physical knob for it's illumination control, you can tell if the Aimpoint is on, and what setting it's at (sort of) without looking through it.

With the CompM4s, you have to turn it to at least 7 or 8 clicks before the dot becomes visible, more if you're operating in bright lights. The EoTech is visible in daylight as soon as you turn it on, but you may want to turn it up a little in bright environments.

Back to my previous point about absolute co-witness -- I want to practice with the exact same cheek weld no matter what aiming device I'm using. Additionally, if my red dot goes out, I'm still on target with my irons without fiddling around or moving my face or eyes. If you like, I can try to take a photo of my sight picture so you can see what absolute co-witnes would look like with an EOtech.

Most of this is just personal preference, like so many other things. I don't think the EOTech is the best red-dot out there, but I do like mine a lot. I've started to consider some of the less expensive (HAH) Trijicon options, but they all seem to be 4 MOA+ which bugs me.

[AYOxITZxACE]

Valid points. You can really see more of a co-witness thru an EOTech than a Aimpoint easier too. I have ARMS 40L-P rear BUIS and a PRI hooded front BUIS. (Random fact) But yeah, I'm leaning more towards an EOTech. Especially because it does something I haven't seen the Aimpoints do:

Work even when the lens is cracked.

IF anyone can prove Aimpoints can do the same, I'd REALLY LIKE TO KNOW!!! (But don't break yours to do so. LOL!)

[ChrisTKHarris]

Valid points. You can really see more of a co-witness thru an EOTech than a Aimpoint easier too. I have ARMS 40L-P rear BUIS and a PRI hooded front BUIS. (Random fact) But yeah, I'm leaning more towards an EOTech. Especially because it does something I haven't seen the Aimpoints do:

Work even when the lens is cracked.

IF anyone can prove Aimpoints can do the same, I'd REALLY LIKE TO KNOW!!! (But don't break yours to do so. LOL!)

Aimpoints DO work with the lens cracked. Go see the new Daniel Defense M4 Torture Test video on their website, they crack the Aimpoint and it still works...although they don't SHOW you it is still working...so perhaps they were lying.

[Outta Control]

Aimpoints DO work with the lens cracked. Go see the new Daniel Defense M4 Torture Test video on their website, they crack the Aimpoint and it still works...although they don't SHOW you it is still working...so perhaps they were lying.

The T1's lens on the video was broken, not cracked, during the explosion test and did a very minor shift to the right but it was still hitting targets.

[carnelianbay]

What was I trained on? Trijicon ACOG (LOL!) But I'm talking about a REASONABLY PRICED OPTIC HERE...LOL! Believe me, if the damn ACOG wasn't 2x the price, this wouldn't even be a thread right now. One of the reasons why I ask is because I wanna get a gereral idea of which is preferred, JIC I don't like the one I decide to go with. (I'm thinkin' sell, b4 buy) Just another tool to base my judgment off of.

I see. I wasn’t thinking about magnified optics. If you’re prepared to spend $700+ the CompM4 is the way the go. For less you can go CompM2 or M3, and even less if you don’t need night vision compatibility which for most is not necessary. The thing about the M2 & M3’s is that you’ll end up spending another $100+ on a good mount. The M4 comes with a very good mount. Although it isn’t QR it works very well. Contrary to another poster's comment, my M4 has full co-witness with the 40L out of the box. No additional mount/cost necessary.

Every once and a while Brownells will have a bundle where you get the CompM4, mount, flash hider, and a 40L flip up back up sight for the cost of the optic only. It’s a good deal since the 40L is $100+ itself.

EoTech is a different animal. It’s like asking someone: Chevy, Ford or Dodge? It comes down to personal choice, brand, ruggedness, recitals, “look”, etc. If you’re older be sure to view both of them. Your eyes can play tricks on you making the dot look oval or have a hot spot. The way to check if it’s your eyes is to rotate the optic. If the hot spot doesn’t move during the rotation then it’s your eyes, if it does then it’s the optic.

For me I went M4. Besides being a proven solid unit (M68), I like the 2MOA dot for 100 yd shots, the flip up covers, and the fact that it runs on an AA battery. I actually like the M4 compared to the M4s since it’s less intrusive for truly both eye open use. The M4s with the battery on the bottom “shades” my view more.